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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 7, 2015, 5:07 pm
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       Orioles call up Junior Lake.
       Think Lake has a small, but possible, chance to evolve into a
       solid regular eventually. Athletic and taking forever to learn
       the game of baseball but think he has a chance.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: brjones Date: August 7, 2015, 6:24 pm
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       Rangers trade for Mike Napoli.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: guest61 Date: August 7, 2015, 7:19 pm
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       [quote author=Reb link=topic=321.msg236040#msg236040
       date=1438985243]
       Orioles call up Junior Lake.
       Think Lake has a small, but possible, chance to evolve into a
       solid regular eventually. Athletic and taking forever to learn
       the game of baseball but think he has a chance.
       [/quote]
       Yep.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Ron Date: August 7, 2015, 9:33 pm
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       Rob Neyer with a somewhat surprising piece on intangibles.
  HTML http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/derek-jeter-scott-rolen-teamship-intangibles-chemistry-curt-schilling-kirk-gibson-080415
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: AndyMacFAIL Date: August 7, 2015, 10:32 pm
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: CUBluejays Date: August 8, 2015, 12:06 am
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       Astros getting Perez from the Dbacks for a minor leaguer.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: FDISK Date: August 8, 2015, 2:43 pm
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       Good article by Neyer.  I'm not sure why you found it
       "surprising".
       When Bill James first started writing abstracts back in '80s I
       became an instant convert.  Over the years sabermetrics has
       ballooned. Now...it seems that sabermetrics is the end
       all...each new development taken as gospel. Not at all what
       James planned.
       Like most prophets, he wouldn't recognize a modern religion.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 8, 2015, 3:45 pm
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       [quote author=FDISK link=topic=321.msg236161#msg236161
       date=1439063001]
       Good article by Neyer.  I'm not sure why you found it
       "surprising".
       When Bill James first started writing abstracts back in '80s I
       became an instant convert.  Over the years sabermetrics has
       ballooned. Now...it seems that sabermetrics is the end
       all...each new development taken as gospel. Not at all what
       James planned.
       Like most prophets, he wouldn't recognize a modern religion.
       [/quote]
       The "gospel" component are the outsiders--websites, bloggers,
       posters, etc. Way too much rigidity.
       The insiders--the younger, cutting edge, educated folks who grew
       up reading James and others--are a different sort. They tend to
       actually interact with a more diverse population and most are
       inherently skeptical of dogma and are comfortable changing on
       the fly when circumstances warrant. Cubs leadership know all the
       sabernetric stuff too but hard to listen to them and conclude
       anything is gospel to them.
       Think all of this is useful, even the dogma. Just have to
       separate the wheat from the chaff. This has been true of every
       advance in every discipline, ever. Skepticism is the foundation
       of the James Abstracts too. Skepticism permeates almost every
       page. The New Dogma warrants skepticism too. No different than
       anything else.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: FDISK Date: August 8, 2015, 4:01 pm
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       I always thought James was, among other things, the original
       "mythbuster". He was skeptical...of conventional wisdom...of
       established legend...and almost anything else that was taken for
       granted. He was also very skeptical of his own work.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 8, 2015, 4:24 pm
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       Right. Some folks think of James (and other contemporaries,
       Craig Wright, Pete Palmer, etc) as mostly about stats but really
       about examining the mostly unexplored status quo and dogma.
       Amazing how all this now part of the game. A fantastically good
       thing.
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