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       #Post#: 238191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:19 pm
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       I'm 38 for a few more months. Does that make me young or old?
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:21 pm
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       I forgot about you Okie.
       I knew we were close.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: Reb link ---
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       > As for me, I don't find it necessary or elucidating to point
       out that I enjoy baseball and always like to see Cubs do well.
       >
       > Perhaps if the board hosts would like to add a topic of
       Obvious Things Worth Saying, we can weigh in on evils of nuclear
       proliferation or that driving drunk is bad.
       >
       > But, for Ron, let us all say we can "enjoy and appreciate" the
       Cubs 2015 season.
       >
       > Glad we settled that controversy.
       >
       >
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       Fair enough.  And wanting the Cubs to win, make the playoffs and
       the World Series can be one as well.   ;)
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:28 pm
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       Just try to forget about the Cubs history. Yes, easier said than
       done. The baggage is overwhelming. We all carry it. But, it's
       not healthy. Fans of most other clubs don't carry it in same
       way.
       Don't temper expectations based on the history. That's all. We
       can compare Club X to Club Y on the merits.  But, the game is
       unpredictable and what happened in some past season is totally
       irrelevant to what will happen on field in 2015.  Ask the Cubs
       players about that.
       I, for one, appreciate that some posters acknowledge that they
       kind of brace themselves for the worst. 29 teams won't win WS in
       2015, so odds are with anybody expecting something less. But,
       what will happen has zero to do with Cubs history. We know that
       but there's the baggage.
       The Cubs history is only relevant when Cubs win it all. Then, it
       will be especially sweet for us all.  We will be rewarded in a
       special way. In the meantime, it's one game at a time and no
       point to temper expectations based on something irrelevant to
       now.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: August 21, 2015, 6:15 pm
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       Totally agree about not tempering expectations based on history.
       Different team, different front office, different ownership.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: August 21, 2015, 6:42 pm
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       2-run homer for Marlon Byrd in his first at-bat with the Giants.
       They are indeed the Cardinals of the west.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: August 21, 2015, 8:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: Reb link ---
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       > We should think a bit like the players.
       >
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       Why?
       Will it change the outcome of the games?
       Will it allow YOU to enjoy the games or the season more if you
       think others here are thinking the same way you do?
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: August 21, 2015, 8:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Reb link ---
       >
       > Don't temper expectations based on the history. That's all. We
       can compare Club X to Club Y on the merits.  But, the game is
       unpredictable and what happened in some past season is totally
       irrelevant to what will happen on field in 2015.  Ask the Cubs
       players about that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Another thing which is irrelevant to the outcome on the field in
       2015 is whether Cub fans do or do not temper expectations based
       on history, or have any expectations at all... or are absolutely
       rabidly committed to the team and live or die with the outcome.
       NONE of that is relevant to the outcome on the field.
       --- Quote from: Reb link ---
       >
       > I, for one, appreciate that some posters acknowledge that they
       kind of brace themselves for the worst. 29 teams won't win WS in
       2015, so odds are with anybody expecting something less.
       >
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       It is not "brac(ing)... for the worst" to enjoy the season for
       what it is, or to understand and accept the fact that it is
       highly unlikely the 2015 team will go far in the post-season, or
       even to believe that the Cubs in the immediate future are likely
       to be a good deal better than now, or to recognize that failing
       to win the WS this year is a long, long way from the worst thing
       that can happen.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: August 21, 2015, 8:46 pm
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       Byrd 3-4, 2B, HR
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 21, 2015, 9:17 pm
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       Bumgarner with his 5th homer of year tonight.
       Soler has six.
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