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       #Post#: 238143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: August 21, 2015, 2:23 pm
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       Until recently I didnt realize how old a lot of you guys are.
       No wonder you all give me a hard time.
       Im the youngest one here.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Playtwo
       Date: August 21, 2015, 2:26 pm
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       "Respect your elders."
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: August 21, 2015, 2:51 pm
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       I've always wondered where I fall on the JR, Dusty age scale.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: August 21, 2015, 3:32 pm
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       I think Im older than JR.
       Im 33.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: August 21, 2015, 3:37 pm
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       You are 23 years older then.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: August 21, 2015, 3:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Reb link ---
       >
       > Aside from some Cubs fans, I wonder how many teams have fans
       who look at winning in post-season as iceing on the cake--and
       emphasize about a nice regular season and how much they enjoyed
       rooting for their favorite players. This says something about
       rooting for a loser for decades, I guess. Can anyone imagine a
       Cardinals fan EVER saying what Ron just said when their club is
       odds-on favorite to be in post-season?
       >
       > Wake Up! Your lovable losers are in the dust bin. You don't
       have to think like a loser anymore. Be Here Now.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You seem to be suggesting I'm saying something I'm not. I'd
       rather you didn't do that.
       What I actually said was "I enjoy the game itself, I enjoy
       rooting for favorite players and I especially enjoy watching the
       team perform well, even in years they don't get to the World
       Series."
       I never said I would not be disappointed if the Cubs don't make
       the playoffs this season, nor did I say that I am not hoping for
       them to get into the playoffs and prosper within them. I never
       used the term "icing on the cake" and as it happens, I don't
       like losing and have never embraced the term "lovable losers"
       when applied to the Cubs (or anything else, for that matter).
       I simply said that if they fail to get to the World Series, or
       even fail to get into the playoffs, that it will not prevent me
       from enjoying this very fun and promising (for me anyway)
       season.
       Since I've objected to your characterization of what I said, I
       won't try to characterize your position.  I'll simply ask
       whether you are saying that you cannot enjoy or appreciate this
       season unless the Cubs ... what ... get into the playoffs, get
       to the World Series ... or what?
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 21, 2015, 4:00 pm
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       Wonderful that you enjoy the game itself, enjoy rooting for your
       favorite players, and always enjoy watching the team peform
       well.
       If that is all you had to say about the previous posts on the
       topic at issue, thanks for the contribution.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 21, 2015, 4:28 pm
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       As for me, I don't find it necessary or elucidating to point out
       that I enjoy baseball and always like to see Cubs do well.
       Perhaps if the board hosts would like to add a topic of Obvious
       Things Worth Saying, we can weigh in on evils of nuclear
       proliferation or that driving drunk is bad.
       But, for Ron, let us all say we can "enjoy and appreciate" the
       Cubs 2015 season.
       Glad we settled that controversy.
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       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: DelMarFan
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:01 pm
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       I think it's also obvious that we all want the Cubs to win the
       World Series.  What I wouldn't give to have it happen before my
       father dies.  Of course I want it.
       These are the Cubs, however.  They're young, and while they're
       flawed, no one expected them to be this good this soon.  Most
       people felt the window opens in 2016.  So what are you asking
       me?  Are you asking me to believe that this is the team that's
       going to do it?  Yes, I want them to do it, but am I supposed to
       *believe* that they'll do it?  Because after 40 years of
       Cubfandom, that's a tough ask.  The last time I let myself
       believe was about the 5th inning of game 6 in 2003.
       Want vs believe.  Want leads to disappointment when it doesn't
       happen.  Believe leads to soul-crushing depression (when it
       doesn't happen).
       #Post#: 238186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around Baseball
   DIR By: OkieCubsFan
       Date: August 21, 2015, 5:09 pm
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       You're not the youngest, Dusty.  I'm 32.
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