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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: August 20, 2015, 10:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
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> Yeah, regular season is great...but there has been a
let's-temper-expectations thread on this board all season.
>
> Don't care for that at all.
>
> World Series is not iceing on the cake. It's what these guys
play for.
>
> And, same for fans. Let's think like Yankees fans or Cardinals
fans. Things are different now.
>
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This.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 21, 2015, 12:18 am
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Ever seen this before?
HTML http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2015/08/20/144360518/marcell-ozuna-hits-home-run-off-top-of-foul-pole
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Chris27
Date: August 21, 2015, 1:43 am
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Archer threw a 1-hitter in Houston with 11 K's on just 98
pitches.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Ron
Date: August 21, 2015, 6:43 am
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
>
> Yeah, regular season is great...but there has been a
let's-temper-expectations thread on this board all season.
>
> Don't care for that at all.
>
> World Series is not iceing on the cake. It's what these guys
play for.
>
> And, same for fans. Let's think like Yankees fans or Cardinals
fans. Things are different now.
>
--- End Quote ---
Speaking for myself, I'm not trying to "temper expectations" of
anyone. But if the only thing being a fan is about is playing
for the World Series, it's a mystery to me why any of us have
followed the Cubs so closely and faithfully for decades, most
years of which it was clear that the team had virtually no
chance to getting there. I enjoy the game itself, I enjoy
rooting for favorite players and I especially enjoy watching the
team perform well, even in years they don't get to the World
Series.
In any event, I'm sorry that you don't care for how others
approach the season. I had not realized there was one and only
one approach to being a proper fan. ;)
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Bennett
Date: August 21, 2015, 8:51 am
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Don't set your goals very high. That way you will never be
disappointed.
Seriously, you should have a primary goal that is attainable and
a "stretch" goal that might prove difficult to reach. A hitter
may establish a goal of hitting 20 home runs. But if he has
reached that number by September 1, there should be a stretch
goal of maybe 25 homers.
In 2015, the Cubs goal should be to obtain a wild card spot with
a stretch goal of winning the division. In 2016 those goals
will be to win the division and if things go their way, the
World Series.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: August 21, 2015, 8:57 am
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Well said, Bennett.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 21, 2015, 1:18 pm
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--- Quote from: Ron link ---
>
> Speaking for myself, I'm not trying to "temper expectations"
of anyone. But if the only thing being a fan is about is playing
for the World Series, it's a mystery to me why any of us have
followed the Cubs so closely and faithfully for decades, most
years of which it was clear that the team had virtually no
chance to getting there. I enjoy the game itself, I enjoy
rooting for favorite players and I especially enjoy watching the
team perform well, even in years they don't get to the World
Series.
>
> In any event, I'm sorry that you don't care for how others
approach the season. I had not realized there was one and only
one approach to being a proper fan. ;)
>
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Aside from some Cubs fans, I wonder how many teams have fans who
look at winning in post-season as iceing on the cake--and
emphasize about a nice regular season and how much they enjoyed
rooting for their favorite players. This says something about
rooting for a loser for decades, I guess. Can anyone imagine a
Cardinals fan EVER saying what Ron just said when their club is
odds-on favorite to be in post-season?
Wake Up! Your lovable losers are in the dust bin. You don't have
to think like a loser anymore. Be Here Now.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: August 21, 2015, 1:24 pm
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Management has taken a systematic approach to improving the Cub
organization. This has resulted in the development of a young
ML roster that has shown it can compete at a high level. But to
my knowledge it would be unprecedented for such a young team to
go deep in the playoffs. That doesn't mean it can't happen, but
does mean that it is sensible to keep one's expectations in
check. Reb, you're welcome to your opinion that this
perspective is due to years of my being beaten down as a Cub
fan. I view it more as being objective about the current team.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 21, 2015, 1:50 pm
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--- Quote from: Playtwo link ---
>
> Management has taken a systematic approach to improving the
Cub organization. This has resulted in the development of a
young ML roster that has shown it can compete at a high level.
But to my knowledge it would be unprecedented for such a young
team to go deep in the playoffs. That doesn't mean it can't
happen, but does mean that it is sensible to keep one's
expectations in check. Reb, you're welcome to your opinion that
this perspective is due to years of my being beaten down as a
Cub fan. I view it more as being objective about the current
team.
>
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Of course your perspective is due to years of Cubs not winning
anything. It's human nature. That is something to overcome, not
to pretend it isn't there.
Cubs fans, by and large, think differently than Cardinals fans.
How can we not? We come into each season with baggage.
Cubs players? No, they don't. They couldn't care less about what
happened years past. If they get that at all, it's from fans
telling them how deceased grandma rooted for Cubs for 65 years,
so please win for her.
We should think a bit like the players.
No, losing in the wild card or losing in division series or
losing in NLCS is not a good outcome. Nobody here should be
satisfied with that or view getting that far as iceing on the
cake. We got to see our favorite players perform. It was nice.
Yippee.
No, not good enough. Let us attempt to discard the mental
baggage. It's hard to do but that era of Cubs baseball is dead
and gone.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: August 21, 2015, 2:07 pm
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I've been a Cubs fan since 1953. I've rooted for many Cubs teams
that were all but mathematically eliminated by Labor Day. The
postseason is a crapshoot (see 2014). My goal as a fan is to see
the Cubs reach the postseason every year. Anything beyond that
is gravy. Contending for six months is far more enjoyable to me
than winning a one, five or seven-game series. Those series are
stressful, and usually end in disappointment.
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