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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: brjones
Date: August 14, 2015, 4:23 pm
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Jose Valverde gets an 80 game PED suspension. He's 37 years old
and hasn't been good in a while, so that probably ends his
career.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: August 14, 2015, 4:24 pm
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What is wrong with some of these guys that they think they can
still get away with it?
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: brjones
Date: August 14, 2015, 4:27 pm
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Well, it was almost certain Valverde's career was over
anyway...so I guess it might have been worth the risk for him.
If his tests had happened to come at the right time so it's out
of his system, he might squeeze another couple of million out of
major league teams.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 14, 2015, 4:44 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
>
> 1. Might not make much sense to bargain into a guy with
leverage when you've got a good thing going as is. 2/25 is
extreme; but what if he's 6/35? Is that enough to realize you'd
rather have Coghlan?
>
> 2. I expect you guys have discussed this before, but wouldn't
next year be very much a part of Utley's consideration? Does
he want to go to a place that's sure to buy him out? Or to a
place that might keep him? If the latter, wouldn't the playing
time issue be about next year as well as this?
>
> That's an interesting question for the Cubs. They are on a
youth program, and with Russell/Baez/Castro/Alcantara the
assumption has been a middle-infield surplus. Maybe the Cubs
will very much want to hold 2B for Baez, and give Castro another
shot to come back next year, and view LaStella as some
serviceable anti-awful insurance, and figure that even if
nothing works out that well that Torres isn't that far off
anyway.
>
> But I wonder if Utley for next year might make some sense.
> *Baez could be your winter trade chip, or else could compete
for AB's and/or be a utility guy, and/or go back for more
practice at Iowa. (If he's really going to be good, at some
point he ought to be able to sustain some excellence at Iowa.
And if he can't sustain excellence at Iowa, maybe we shouldn't
be holding 2B for him in the majors either?) If Baez does
emerge as a worthwhile heavy-usage guy next year, that's great,
and paying Utley $8 or whatever, thank your lucky stars that you
didn't really need him. And if Baez doesn't emerge as a useful
player, than thank your lucky stars that you hadn't counted on
him.
> *Castro could get moved for the best deal that you can get,
whatever that might be. Or could be kept as a competition/bench
guy.
>
> It would be nice to have the opportunity to shop Baez.
>
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Yeah, Utley 2016 has come up. CBJ noted that Utley contract has
club option at $11 max for 2016. If he played very well for
remainder of 2015, could see club taking that option. Probably
depends whether you project (as I do) that Cubs intend to bring
in veteran guy (Zobrist, Kendrick, etc.) in 2016 to play 2B and
that plan is to trade both baez and Castro.
As to Utley's intentions, he has said recently 2015 playing time
is crucial for him because wants to play in 2016 (and to
showcase now what he can do next year). Knows he has something
to prove, so can't realistically expect any club to give
assurances to him for 2016. Depends how he performs now but
surely he is aware how things might shake out for each
interested club on table now. Giants, no for 2016--for sure.
Angels, maybe. Cubs, maybe.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: August 14, 2015, 8:22 pm
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Are the White Sox better than the Royals?
HTML http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2015/8/13/9144747/ken-harrelson-chicago-white-sox-better-than-kansas-city-royals
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: brjones
Date: August 14, 2015, 9:21 pm
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Tulowitzki is having an amazing AB vs. Andrew Miller in the
bottom of 9th, 2 outs, 4-3 Yankees game with 2 runners on.
McCann is going out to the mound almost every pitch.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: brjones
Date: August 14, 2015, 9:22 pm
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And it's a K. Blue Jays streak over, Cubs are officially the
undisputed hottest team in baseball.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 14, 2015, 9:49 pm
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Cory Kluber CG win---pitches to 28 batters, one over minimum.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Dave23
Date: August 14, 2015, 9:53 pm
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Utley 4-5 tonight...11-22 since coming off DL...
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 14, 2015, 9:57 pm
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Red Sox with FORTY total bases tonight, beating Seattle.
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