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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: brjones Date: August 14, 2015, 4:23 pm
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       Jose Valverde gets an 80 game PED suspension.  He's 37 years old
       and hasn't been good in a while, so that probably ends his
       career.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: CurtOne Date: August 14, 2015, 4:24 pm
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       What is wrong with some of these guys that they think they can
       still get away with it?
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: brjones Date: August 14, 2015, 4:27 pm
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       Well, it was almost certain Valverde's career was over
       anyway...so I guess it might have been worth the risk for him.
       If his tests had happened to come at the right time so it's out
       of his system, he might squeeze another couple of million out of
       major league teams.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 14, 2015, 4:44 pm
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       [quote author=craig link=topic=321.msg237159#msg237159
       date=1439584434]
       1.  Might not make much sense to bargain into a guy with
       leverage when you've got a good thing going as is. 2/25 is
       extreme; but what if he's 6/35?  Is that enough to realize you'd
       rather have Coghlan?
       2.  I expect you guys have discussed this before, but wouldn't
       next year be very much a part of Utley's consideration?   Does
       he want to go to a place that's sure to buy him out?  Or to a
       place that might keep him?  If the latter, wouldn't the playing
       time issue be about next year as well as this?
       That's an interesting question for the Cubs.  They are on a
       youth program, and with Russell/Baez/Castro/Alcantara the
       assumption has been a middle-infield surplus.  Maybe the Cubs
       will very much want to hold 2B for Baez, and give Castro another
       shot to come back next year, and view LaStella as some
       serviceable anti-awful insurance, and figure that even if
       nothing works out that well that Torres isn't that far off
       anyway.
       But I wonder if Utley for next year might make some sense.
       *Baez could be your winter trade chip, or else could compete for
       AB's and/or be a utility guy, and/or go back for more practice
       at Iowa.  (If he's really going to be good, at some point he
       ought to be able to sustain some excellence at Iowa.  And if he
       can't sustain excellence at Iowa, maybe we shouldn't be holding
       2B for him in the majors either?)  If Baez does emerge as a
       worthwhile heavy-usage guy next year, that's great, and paying
       Utley $8 or whatever, thank your lucky stars that you didn't
       really need him.  And if Baez doesn't emerge as a useful player,
       than thank your lucky stars that you hadn't counted on him.
       *Castro could get moved for the best deal that you can get,
       whatever that might be.  Or could be kept as a competition/bench
       guy.
       It would be nice to have the opportunity to shop Baez.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, Utley 2016 has come up. CBJ noted that Utley contract has
       club option at $11 max for 2016. If he played very well for
       remainder of 2015, could see club taking that option. Probably
       depends whether you project (as I do) that Cubs intend to bring
       in veteran guy (Zobrist, Kendrick, etc.) in 2016 to play 2B and
       that plan is to trade both baez and Castro.
       As to Utley's intentions, he has said recently 2015 playing time
       is crucial for him because wants to play in 2016 (and to
       showcase now what he can do next year). Knows he has something
       to prove, so can't realistically expect any club to give
       assurances to him for 2016. Depends how he performs now but
       surely he is aware how things might shake out for each
       interested club on table now. Giants, no for 2016--for sure.
       Angels, maybe. Cubs, maybe.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Playtwo Date: August 14, 2015, 8:22 pm
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       Are the White Sox better than the Royals?
  HTML http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2015/8/13/9144747/ken-harrelson-chicago-white-sox-better-than-kansas-city-royals
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: brjones Date: August 14, 2015, 9:21 pm
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       Tulowitzki is having an amazing AB vs. Andrew Miller in the
       bottom of 9th, 2 outs, 4-3 Yankees game with 2 runners on.
       McCann is going out to the mound almost every pitch.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: brjones Date: August 14, 2015, 9:22 pm
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       And it's a K.  Blue Jays streak over, Cubs are officially the
       undisputed hottest team in baseball.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 14, 2015, 9:49 pm
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       Cory Kluber CG win---pitches to 28 batters, one over minimum.
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Dave23 Date: August 14, 2015, 9:53 pm
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       Utley 4-5 tonight...11-22 since coming off DL...
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       Re: Around Baseball
       By: Reb Date: August 14, 2015, 9:57 pm
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       Red Sox with FORTY total bases tonight, beating Seattle.
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