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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 14, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Regarding Utley playing time assurances---sounds nice to say
only gets playing time that he deserves.
But, in real world, folks with some bargaining power get
reasonable assurances. So, if Cubs want him, have to give some
assurances. Doesn't mean assurance that keeps job if goes 2 for
25 but assurance that will have acceptable role from
get-go--based on what Utley thinks is acceptable. Probably means
a starter, at least vs. righties.
Yeah, would cost Coghlan playing time, but can play some RF, and
LF when Schwarber catches. Maddon knows how to use a bench.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: August 14, 2015, 2:47 pm
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Coghlan could also get some time at third to give Bryant a day
off.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:05 pm
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Will be interesting to see how Maddon uses bench when he has
bunch of extra guys on Sept 1. Doesn't seem to have qualms
making moves with 4 bench guys--figures to go whole hog with 8
or whatever. Extra bullpen guys too. Might take an additional 10
minutes to play the average game.
#Post#: 237159--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: craig
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:33 pm
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
>
> Regarding Utley playing time assurances---sounds nice to say
only gets playing time that he deserves.
>
> But, in real world, folks with some bargaining power get
reasonable assurances. So, if Cubs want him, have to give some
assurances. Doesn't mean assurance that keeps job if goes 2 for
25 but assurance that will have acceptable role from
get-go--based on what Utley thinks is acceptable. Probably means
a starter, at least vs. righties.
>
> Yeah, would cost Coghlan playing time, but can play some RF,
and LF when Schwarber catches. Maddon knows how to use a bench.
>
--- End Quote ---
1. Might not make much sense to bargain into a guy with
leverage when you've got a good thing going as is. 2/25 is
extreme; but what if he's 6/35? Is that enough to realize you'd
rather have Coghlan?
2. I expect you guys have discussed this before, but wouldn't
next year be very much a part of Utley's consideration? Does
he want to go to a place that's sure to buy him out? Or to a
place that might keep him? If the latter, wouldn't the playing
time issue be about next year as well as this?
That's an interesting question for the Cubs. They are on a
youth program, and with Russell/Baez/Castro/Alcantara the
assumption has been a middle-infield surplus. Maybe the Cubs
will very much want to hold 2B for Baez, and give Castro another
shot to come back next year, and view LaStella as some
serviceable anti-awful insurance, and figure that even if
nothing works out that well that Torres isn't that far off
anyway.
But I wonder if Utley for next year might make some sense.
*Baez could be your winter trade chip, or else could compete for
AB's and/or be a utility guy, and/or go back for more practice
at Iowa. (If he's really going to be good, at some point he
ought to be able to sustain some excellence at Iowa. And if he
can't sustain excellence at Iowa, maybe we shouldn't be holding
2B for him in the majors either?) If Baez does emerge as a
worthwhile heavy-usage guy next year, that's great, and paying
Utley $8 or whatever, thank your lucky stars that you didn't
really need him. And if Baez doesn't emerge as a useful player,
than thank your lucky stars that you hadn't counted on him.
*Castro could get moved for the best deal that you can get,
whatever that might be. Or could be kept as a competition/bench
guy.
It would be nice to have the opportunity to shop Baez.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: guest61
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:34 pm
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--- Quote from: EightyTwo link ---
>
> Dusty has BR and CBJ blocked?
>
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I have two people on ignore.
One posts very rarely and one posts every day.
It shouldnt be hard to figure out who one of them is.
And yes I was just playing.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: OkieCubsFan
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:41 pm
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Is it me?!?!?!?!
#Post#: 237166--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:42 pm
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I'm the only one that doesn't have you on Ignore, Okie.
#Post#: 237168--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: brjones
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:44 pm
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John Farrell has been diagnosed with stage 1 Lymphoma; Torey
Lovullo will manage the Red Sox for the rest of the year.
#Post#: 237175--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: guest61
Date: August 14, 2015, 3:56 pm
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No Okie it isnt you.
Its the one who only posts crazy trade ideas that he makes up in
his head.
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Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: August 14, 2015, 4:19 pm
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--- Quote from: DUSTY link ---
>
> No Okie it isnt you.
>
> Its the one who only posts crazy trade ideas that he makes up
in his head.
>
--- End Quote ---
Davep?
No, can't be him. He has no ideas of any kind. Nothing goes on
in his head.
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