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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 5, 2015, 12:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: craig link ---
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       > This would be a kind of important swing game.  Win this one,
       get within two of Pittsburgh, keep the momentum going, then be
       set up with 4-straight games with your good pitchers.  Jeff
       Locke for Pittsburgh is not a great or shut-down pitcher.  In
       the recent winning streak, the offense has been scoring 4-runs
       or more per game; can win a LOT of games with that kind of
       offense.  Can they do that again against Locke?  Never likely to
       score four runs in a single game, but it's certainly not
       impossible versus Jeff Locke.
       >
       > Cubs are catching a break with Bumgarner going tonight, so
       it's a good head-to-head matchup against san Fran with us not
       needing to us Haren and not needing to face Bumgarner.
       >
       > So would be nice if haren could win tonight and we could
       ensure holding at least a half-game lead over Giants entering
       that series.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Cubs are facing Locke for 4th time this season: three in April
       and May. 3.2 IP, 6 hits, 5 runs, 3 walks. Before that- 3.2 IP, 8
       hits, 5 earned runs, 3 walks, then, 5 IP, 7 hits , 4 runs, 3
       walks. Being the Cubs, Locke still managed 16 Ks in these poor
       outings.
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: August 5, 2015, 12:51 pm
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       If the Cubs scored 14 runs in 12 IP, why does it matter if they
       struck out 16 times?
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: DelMarFan
       Date: August 5, 2015, 12:57 pm
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       Today on the pre-game forum:  is a strikeout just as bad as any
       other kind of out?  Discuss.
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: PRCubFan
       Date: August 5, 2015, 12:58 pm
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       I wonder if Schwarber will start tonight.  Even against a lefty,
       I would rather have him at the plate instead of Ross.
       #Post#: 235683--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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       > If the Cubs scored 14 runs in 12 IP, why does it matter if
       they struck out 16 times?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       bingo
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: DelMarFan link ---
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       > Today on the pre-game forum:  is a strikeout just as bad as
       any other kind of out?  Discuss.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't want to discuss that at all.  The Cubs scored runs off
       of Locke, why does it matter if they K'd is what I'm curious
       about.  If they K'd 37 times against and still scored 15 runs in
       12.1 IP I don't think I'd care.
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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       > If the Cubs scored 14 runs in 12 IP, why does it matter if
       they struck out 16 times?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, I'll take the runs.
       It still matters, however, as Cubs are a K machine and don't
       always score much with the Ks.
       Even yesterday, pounded out lots of hits but still had uneasy
       feeling as Cubs should have scored more than 5 runs. But, 14 Ks.
       Don't move up base runners enough with all the Ks and hard to
       get lucky with a batted ball when not putting the ball in play.
       We all know the Ks are not good in the aggregate.
       --- Quote from: DelMarFan link ---
       >
       > Today on the pre-game forum:  is a strikeout just as bad as
       any other kind of out?  Discuss.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Let's say it again: converse of a strikeout is NOT "any other
       kind of out." Converse of a strikeout is a ball put in play in
       some form. In the long run, not going to have an efficient
       offense with 14 Ks a game.
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:24 pm
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       I'm more concerned about the lack of HR to go with K's to be
       honest.
       It isn't fair to compare the Astros to the Cubs because of the
       DH, but I'm going to anyway.
       Astros 23.7% K, 8.1% BB, 485 R, 152 HR
       Cubs   24.1% K, 9% BB, 405 R, 95 HR
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:37 pm
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       The Cubs are leading the majors in strikeouts, and likely not
       coincidentally, are second from the bottom in base hits.
       Getting base hits is important, and we're not very good at that.
       
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       Re: Today's Game 2015 (8/3 - 10/23)
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: August 5, 2015, 1:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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       > I'm more concerned about the lack of HR to go with K's to be
       honest.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Lack of HR?
       Cubs are # 5 in NL in homers. Top 1/3 in league--and wind has
       been blowing in at Wrigley a lot so far.
       Look at the overall numbers. Cubs are # 1 in walks and #5 in
       homers. Really good combo, right?
       But, # 11 in runs scored.
       A big reason, the primary reason, is that Cubs are #1 in Ks---by
       a ridiculously wide margin. NL average team has 821 Ks. Cubs
       have 967 Ks. The second higgest Ks is 897---70 fewer than Cubs!
       That' s second highest team.
       All the Ks translate to way, way fewer balls in play. Hence, way
       lower batting average.
       Where do Cubs rank in batting average?  Rank # 14.
       Pretty evident Ks are a problem. Hard to watch this club every
       day and not see that.
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