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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 5, 2015, 12:19 am
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--- Quote from: Cubsin link ---
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> I'd really like to see Contreras added to the roster and
called up for the month of September. He wouldn't see much game
action with three other catchers on the roster, but he could
learn a lot from Ross and Montero. The $85K or so that he'd earn
wouldn't mean much to the Cubs, but it would surely be
appreciated by a minor league player who probably didn't receive
a huge signing bonus.
>
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Contreras will be a six-year minor league free agent at end of
season and, therefore, would seem to be a lock to be added to
the 40-man after the season--given what he's doing now. He
passed thru the Rule 5 undrafted last winter.
But, hard to see an opening for him on the 40-man in September.
Cubs currently at 38, but when LaStella off the 60-day, that's
39, and presumably if/when Richard passes thru revocable waivers
shortly and consents to an option to Iowa, he goes back on
40-man, on option, and roster will be full at 40. Also possible
that Cubs may trade for somebody getting thru waivers in
August--who would have to go on 40-man. Finally, in event Cubs
wanted a 4th catcher, more likely to be Teagarden--who has big
league experience--rather than a AA guy. Either would have to
be added to 40-man, as Teagarden is on outright.
In short, lots of numbers hurdles.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: August 5, 2015, 1:34 am
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Christian Villanueva is on the 40-man, but will be out of
options in 2016. He has no chance of either a September call-up
or a spot on the Winter roster. They could also release one or
more of Beeler, Jokisch, Medina or Schlitter.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 5, 2015, 2:30 am
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--- Quote from: Cubsin link ---
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> Christian Villanueva is on the 40-man, but will be out of
options in 2016. He has no chance of either a September call-up
or a spot on the Winter roster. They could also release one or
more of Beeler, Jokisch, Medina or Schlitter.
>
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Hope you're right about a Contreras call-up---it would be
interesting, but there are hurdles.
Beeler and Jokisch have 2016 options. Possible that either could
be taken off winter 40-man and exposed to a waiver claim or the
Rule 5. (No reason to "release" them as they would not be 6-year
minor league free agents). But, considering depth issues in
upper minors, seems unlikely at this point. We'll see how
off-season 40-man shakes out soon. Always a fun topic.
Exposing either to a waiver claim in September to get Contreras
to majors this season? Don't see that. Perhaps to make room for
an August trade guy? Maybe, but not for Contreras to sit and get
service time.
Villanueva seems a good bet to be traded in off-season. He has
some value. But why expose Villanueva to a waiver claim in
September just to bring up Contreras to sit/service time in
September.? Don't see that either.
Schlitter is doing okay at Iowa, but Medina seems ahead of him
now in the Iowa shuttle. We know there will be September
pitching call-ups. Richards (if not claimed), Wada, who else?
Edwards? Could be. Rosscup. Guessing we see either Schlitter or
Medina, maybe both. If not, to get Contreras up? Don't see it.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: August 5, 2015, 9:36 am
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
>
> Beeler and Jokisch have 2016 options. Possible that either
could be taken off winter 40-man and exposed to a waiver claim
or the Rule 5. (No reason to "release" them as they would not be
6-year minor league free agents). But, considering depth issues
in upper minors, seems unlikely at this point. We'll see how
off-season 40-man shakes out soon. Always a fun topic.
>
> Exposing either to a waiver claim in September to get
Contreras to majors this season? Don't see that. Perhaps to
make room for an August trade guy? Maybe, but not for Contreras
to sit and get service time.
>
> Villanueva seems a good bet to be traded in off-season. He has
some value. But why expose Villanueva to a waiver claim in
September just to bring up Contreras to sit/service time in
September.? Don't see that either.
>
> Schlitter is doing okay at Iowa, but Medina seems ahead of him
now in the Iowa shuttle. We know there will be September
pitching call-ups. Richards (if not claimed), Wada, who else?
Edwards? Could be. Rosscup. Guessing we see either Schlitter or
Medina, maybe both. If not, to get Contreras up? Don't see it.
>
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I think next year's rotation depth will be interesting.
Assuming no trades, Pierce Johnson, Rob Zastrynzy and Ryan
Williams will be at AAA. Edwards might be in the bullpen or
rotation as well. Turner could be the 6th guy/long man with the
Cubs. Underwood, Tseng, Blackburn, Skulina? and Torrez could be
in AA. It might be to the point where fringe guys like Beeler
and Jokisch won't be needed.
I think Villaneva could get you a bullpen guy or maybe somebody
like Utley as a PTBNL, so I doubt they will release him.
The Sept callups will be really interesting. How many bullpen
guys will get call? Olt, Baez, Szczur would seem like the
position players that will come up. Maybe a cup of coffee for
Villanueva too.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: August 5, 2015, 9:57 am
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Guy on NSBB:
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> davell wrote:
> Miggy is evidently impressed with Contreras, as he thinks he's
a future MLB All Star Catcher. Said wait till you see his
defense and arm.
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Contreras is 49K/42BB/338AB, <13%K-per-PA.
BABIP is .375. Don't think he'll carry either that K-rate, walk
rate, or BABIP to the majors, obviously.
But if his defense is good, seems like a pretty valuable asset.
He'll open next season at age 23.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: August 5, 2015, 10:10 am
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Baez 1-5, HR 0K
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Candelario 2-4, HR, 2B .353/.382/.549 (3 BB, 5K 51 AB)
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Berg 1 IP, 1 H, 3 K (2.35 ERA)
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Happ 1-5, 3K (.278/.333/.361 at SB 36 AB)
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VZL
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Wilson 2-3 1 BB
Cease 1.1, 0, 2, 2, 4, 3
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DSL
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: jacey1
Date: August 5, 2015, 1:18 pm
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thanks CBJ
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: August 5, 2015, 7:37 pm
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Mr BABIP Contreras has two hits already.
Mr. anti-BABIP Almora also has both two hits and a walk. Who'd
have guessed that a biggish guy with a 34K/21BB/289AB ratio
would be needing a hot day to reach .290 OBP. If I'm
calculating correctly, his two hits now get him to .255 BABIP.
Maybe it's all just bad luck? Maybe a Camp Colvin and he'll do
better next year? Maybe it's just a lot of groundouts to 2B?
Maybe it's just a very slow bat?
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: August 5, 2015, 9:44 pm
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And maybe he is simply never going to be an even tolerable
hitter.
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Re: On The Farm
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 5, 2015, 10:09 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> Mr BABIP Contreras has two hits already. ....
>
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Contreras with four hits by end of game.
He is 20 for his last 36. Wow.
This a guy who will be a six-year minor league free agent at end
of season (a misnomer because it takes 7 seasons, 6 full and a
partial season, typically). Of course, he will be rostered this
time around.
Will be interesting to see if he develops as a back-up, or a
Nick Hundley-type regular, or something better or worse.
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