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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: guest61
Date: May 18, 2015, 1:06 am
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I dont remember a prospect by the name of Jon Bryant?
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: May 18, 2015, 1:32 am
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I agree with your likely top three prospects. Without knowing
who our pick will be, who might be promoted too early to remain
a prospect, who might be traded in July and how the various
candidates will perform over the rest of the season, it's far to
early for me to rank the rest of them. But I think Almora,
McKinney and Jimenez are strong candidates for #4.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: grrrrlacher
Date: May 18, 2015, 1:42 am
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Don't forget Vogelbach and Edwards.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: davep
Date: May 18, 2015, 8:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Jes Beard link ---
>
> When a 20 year old has what is up until that time a "career
year" it might be reasonable to conclude it is less a result of
being the best year he will ever have (which is the way I define
"career year") and more a result of simply developing and coming
closer to reaching his potential. In fact 20 year old players
who do NOT have what is up until that point the best season they
have ever had should be raising concerns about their
performance.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is what they thought about Hayden Simpson.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: May 18, 2015, 9:30 pm
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That was just a Goc awful pick. Yelich, Walker, Syndergaard,
Sanchez where all picked after him. Benvinditti has at least
done it in the SEC and not at a DII school with a velocity spike
thrown in for fun.
I do wonder how much of it was a budget issue vs Simpson being
the #1 player on the Cubs board. Wilken always did some whacky
things. Speaking of failed 1st rounders, Brett Jackson is doing
pretty well for the Giants AAA team.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: May 18, 2015, 9:42 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Simpson, recommended by area scout Jim Crawford, expected to
be taken somewhere between the second and fifth rounds. Cubs
scouting director Tim Wilken liked the right-hander's bulldog
attitude, especially after watching him strike out 13 in a
shutout against Florida Southern in the Southern Regional
tournament. Simpson did not walk a batter in that game.
>
> "This guy just made sense," Wilken said Monday. "They can say
what they want to, the prognosticators. It was very, very
simple, but you had to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, this is almost
too good to be true.'"
--- End Quote ---
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: May 18, 2015, 9:44 pm
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Wilken, a known LSD user, is no longer the Cubs scouting
director.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: craig
Date: May 18, 2015, 10:02 pm
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Outfielders are less likely to wreck their arms than pitchers,
so Benvinditti is less likely to get wiped out like Simpson did.
Simpson was probably a dumb pick. But it's kinda hard to
evaluate the scouting when his arm was shot before his pro
career got off the ground. The same could happen with Jay or
Fulmer or whichever pitcher is the smartest pitcher pick.
Although maybe not. I imagine exactly the weekend that
impressed Wilken the most, pitching deep and then coming back a
couple days later and manfully pitching some more in relief, may
have been exactly what cooked his arm.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: May 18, 2015, 10:10 pm
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Wasn't Simpson's issue mono or whatever Concepcion came down
with?
Really hard to judge the draft before the Baez draft. WGN was
spending most of the money on the MLB to get a winner and drive
up the price of the team. Wilken still works for the Cubs and I
believe helps out a lot with draft. That is a good thing.
While he took some whacky picks, his track record is much, much
better than McLoed who is also really good.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: craig
Date: May 18, 2015, 10:20 pm
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That was the issue that got all the attention. But pitchers
with wrecked are can get mono just like pitchers with healthy
arms. It wasn't the mono that ended his career, it was that he
had elbow problems that cost him both his command and his
velocity. Wilken had him throwing 96-97 pre-draft, he got mono
and didn't pitch draft summer, the following season he started,
went on DL, and came back barely hitting mid-80's. They talked
mono and rest, but in time it came out that he tried to pitch
through a very sore elbow. He's a pitcher, that's the risk you
take whether small college or big.
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