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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: May 12, 2015, 3:44 pm
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Home plate ump called it. The only thing I could see would be
not coming set before pitching for a full second, but that is a
ticky tac call
I had a balk called on me when I picked a kid off of second many
years ago. The ump said I had to step off the rubber to pick
someone off of second. I can't believe I didn't get tossed from
the game.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: May 12, 2015, 3:50 pm
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I remember some umps who looked for crap like that but blew
simple calls on the bases or balls and strikes. They knew all
the nonsense rules, but... I had a kid called out once because
he didn't go back and tag his base after a foul ball.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: May 12, 2015, 3:53 pm
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I'm still convinced it wasn't a balk, 25+ years later.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: Reb
Date: May 12, 2015, 3:55 pm
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Mayo with his first Mock Draft.
Has Walker Buehler to Cubs.
Funkhouser drops to #17.
Says Trenton Clark has ability to stay in CF.
HTML http://m.mlb.com/news/article/123796538/jonathan-mayo-has-dillon-tate-going-first-to-arizona-diamondbacks-in-mock-draft
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: May 12, 2015, 4:50 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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> I'm still convinced it wasn't a balk, 25+ years later.
>
--- End Quote ---
That convinces me it was. You're pretty damb stubborn.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: May 12, 2015, 4:57 pm
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Stubborn? ME? No way?
The ump said it was a balk because I didn't step off with the
rubber with my pivot foot and then attempt to a pick off move to
second base. I'm positive that this isn't a rule. I used the
same pick off move multiple times before and after and it was
never a balk. Now, my pickoff move to first base that was
almost always a balk. It just never got called.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: May 12, 2015, 5:09 pm
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Actually you're right. You just can't feint going home before
pivoting. The ump was ticked because it was his kid you picked
off.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: May 12, 2015, 11:09 pm
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The kid in the video didn't balk, and from what CBJ posted, he
didn't balk either.
Kill all the umps!
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
Date: May 13, 2015, 12:23 am
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Sure looked to me like the kid could be called for a balk on
that play.
I'm assuming TN HS baseball uses the NFHS Rules Book. Rule 6,
Sec. 1, Art. 3 reads:
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> For the set position, the pitcher shall have the ball in
either his gloved hand or his pitching hand. His pitching hand
shall be down at his side or behind his back. Before starting
his delivery, he shall stand with his entire non-pivot foot in
front of a line extending through the front edge of the
pitcher's plate and with his entire pivot foot in contact with
or directly in front of the pitcher's plate. He shall go to the
set position without interruption and in one continuous motion.
He shall come to a complete and discernible stop (a change of
direction is not considered an acceptable stop) with the ball in
both hands in front of the body and his glove at or below his
chin. Natural preliminary motions such as only one stretch may
be made. During these preliminary motions and during the set
position until a delivery motion occurs, the pitcher may turn on
his pivot foot or lift it in a jump turn to step with the
non-pivot foot toward a base while throwing or feinting as
outlined in 6-2-4 and 2-28-5, or he may lift his pivot foot in a
step backward off the pitcher's plate which must be in or
partially within the 24-inch length of the pitcher's plate. In
order to change to the wind-up position, he must first step
clearly backward off the pitcher's plate with his pivot foot
first. After the pitcher has placed his pivot foot on the ground
clearly behind the plate, he then has the right to throw or
feint to a base the same as that of any other infielder.
>
>
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I can see the umpire explaining the pitcher didn't come to a
complete stop and during his 'quick' stop the glove was
positioned above his chin. Kind of a questionable call on the
play but not necessarily a wrong call. Why was the pitcher
throwing from stretch on the play as the video seems to show
there wasn't a runner occupying 1st base. When I pitched, I was
taught to always pitch from a windup with a runner on third and
first base unoccupied as you're more likely to be called for a
balk pitching from the stretch. I was also taught that with a
runner on third and pitching from the stretch, make sure you
come to a complete stop and count to at least one to freeze the
runner(s) and to lessen the possibility of a questionable balk
call made by an umpire.
Ticky tack borderline call on the play? Absolutely but not
necessarily the WRONG call. I've seen some 'better' umpires let
it go and then, in between the next half inning of play, seek
out the team's head coach and tell him to make sure his pitcher
comes to a complete stop as 'you don't want to lose this game
due to a balk.'
Also from the reactions after the play, this call didn't end the
game. (Edited to add: looked it up and this play occurred in the
bottom of the 4th inning.) Tough way to lose a game and a tough
way to end the season & some players HS baseball careers but
"you can't win if you don't score" and Clarksville didn't score
a run in the game.
I saw a 'phantom' balk call end an extra inning game and a
team's season two years ago and that balk call was completely
bogus as the HP umpire commented to me before the half inning
started that he needed the game to end soon as he had to be at
work in 6 hours and he hadn't yet slept.
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Re: 2015 MLB Draft
DIR By: Reb
Date: May 13, 2015, 3:34 pm
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New rumor about Cubs pick at #9, from Keith Law's chat today:
....it also depends on who they draft at #9. Latest rumor has
them on Andrew Benintendi of Arkansas, a 5'9" or so LHH CF with
surprising power.
Benintendi is a helium guy last few weeks: a true CFer, 2nd in
NCAA in homers with 17. This is in SEC, mind you. Current
line is 412-507-780. 20/24 SBs. Lefty bat. Draft eligible
Sophomore because turns 21 in July, before end of signing
period.
Kiley McDaniel has him at #13 to Rays. Mayo has him #20 to A's.
No mention in BA mock.
If Cubs drafted him, would of course be CF alternative to
Almora.
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