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       #Post#: 200210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: JR
       Date: November 10, 2014, 2:10 pm
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       I also read a story earlier today where Jed Hoyer said this . .
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       --- Quote ---
       > “We’re literally linked to every free agent it seems like,”
       Hoyer said on a conference call with reporters. “Some of that is
       agent driven. They’re trying to connect us to everyone because
       they realize we do have some payroll flexibility.
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think there's a decent chance a
       connection between Torii Hunter in the Cubs might be in the
       "Agent Driven" category.
  HTML http://beta.espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/27983/hoyer-a-super-charged-offseason-is-overstated
       #Post#: 200216--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 10, 2014, 2:30 pm
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       Cubs Den has Martin asking for 5 years, $75-80 million.  He also
       maybe interested in moving away from catching.  These would make
       him less interesting to me.
       #Post#: 200221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 10, 2014, 2:49 pm
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       Mets make the first big free agent move by signing Cuddyer to a
       2 year deal.  They're sacrificing their first round draft pick
       for him.
       The Mets should spend a lot of money now that they've given up
       their first rounder.  A wild card spot is well within their
       reach since they'll be playing so many games against the Braves,
       Marlins, and Phillies.
       #Post#: 200226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: craig
       Date: November 10, 2014, 2:58 pm
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       Not sure what kind of legs and wheels Torii Hunter has at age
       39.  But that guy was a great CFer in his day.  Back in his
       Twins years, seems like he was on the Minnesota TV highlights
       all the time making fantastic catches.  But, obviously age takes
       the speed off; after 9 consecutive gold gloves, he hasn't won
       one of those in five years.
       If veteran leadership is what they want, he'd actually be
       terrific.  Totally a class act, super nice and personable guy,
       and very professional guy.  Really easy to like guy.  8 years of
       post-season experience with three different organizations.
       If leadership qualities are what's wanted, a year or two of
       Torii Hunter might be a better value than $75/5 of Martin.
       Hunter hasn't been a regular CF for a couple years, but I don't
       doubt that he'd be better defensively than Alcantara.  And
       either could play some left.
       I'm not saying it's at all realistic.  But Torii is as good for
       veteran-guy-character as Hoyer could imagine, I think.
       #Post#: 200228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 10, 2014, 3:09 pm
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       Hunter is a LF/RF only now.  His kid is a soph. WR at Notre
       Dame, so being close by in Chicago would be a plus for him.
       Giving up a first round pick for Cuddyer only makes sense if the
       they are going after multiple QO players.
       #Post#: 200230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: November 10, 2014, 3:25 pm
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       Sure hope they do more than Cuddyer. If not, that's a truly head
       scratching move.
       #Post#: 200232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 10, 2014, 3:34 pm
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       I just don't see a lot of choices for them on the free agent
       market, though.  Wright, Murphy, Duda, D'Arnaud, Cuddyer, and
       Granderson are locked in.  There are no free agent
       centerfielders who got qualifying offers.  And I don't think
       Hanley is going to get many offers to play shortstop this
       offseason, especially on a team where third base is covered for
       the forseeable future.
       I guess they would be a fit for Robertson, though...the back end
       of their bullpen wasn't very good in 2014.  And if they trade a
       young starter or two for a shortstop, I guess signing a starter
       (probably Liriano or Santana) could make a lot of sense.
       Two years, $21 million for Cuddyer, by the way.
       Administrative question: do we want to continue to talk about
       transactions for other teams in the Hot Stove topic, or would
       people prefer to move those discussions to the Around Baseball
       topic?
       #Post#: 200233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: davep
       Date: November 10, 2014, 3:40 pm
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       I would prefer that they stay here - at least the ones that
       could affect who the Cubs might be interested in.  There was
       some talk that the Cubs might be interested in Cuddyer, so it
       seems appropriate.
       Of course, there have been some talk about the Cubs being
       interested in just about every free agent on the market, so I
       don't care much either way.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 10, 2014, 3:54 pm
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       Olney says the Cubs are on Hamels' no trade list.  So if the
       Cubs want him, they'll probably have to pick up his 5th year
       option as a condition.
       That makes him significantly less appealing to me.  The biggest
       advantage of trading for him over signing Lester was the smaller
       commitment in years.  Now it's probably just a one year
       difference.
       #Post#: 200235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove 2015
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 10, 2014, 4:01 pm
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       All qualifying offers have been declined.
       I'm assuming Cuddyer would've accepted his if the Mets hadn't
       given him a 2 year offer he liked, though.
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