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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
Date: December 18, 2014, 4:30 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/astros-nix-reach-grievance-settlement/
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> Jacob Nix, Houston draftee, gets $1.5 settlement. The note
doesn't detail, but presumably it's a grievance settlement
rather than a contract. So Houston doesn't violate the draft
cap and get doesn't get penalized for going over the draft
limit. Had the "contract" been enforced, it would really have
killed them. But neither do they get Nix's services.
>
> Would seem to be a win-win outcome overall for Nix. He gets
the $1.5 million he wanted, plus he presumably gets another shot
to return to the draft and get additional million(s). So he can
double his money. And perhaps end up in a less dysfunctional
organization besides.
>
> Personal thought: Houston just lost, lost, and lost in this
whole deal. They lost the players, they lost a bunch of money,
they lost a lot of face/reputation, and they were perhaps at
risk of losing additional penalty picks future, even is that
didn't actually happen. Two possible stories:
> 1. The common view has been that they tried to trick the
system, tried to take advantage of Aiken, and their sins found
them out and came back to punish them.
> 2. The alternate story is that they assumed their Aiken deal
was good and done; were careless/hasty in advancing Nix until
Aiken had cleared; and then they were double-diced when they
both got the terrible news on the Aiken physical, and realized
they'd gone way too far with Nix. Lose, lose, lose.
>
> I've always thought story 2, incompetent dumb mistake and
sincere concern about Aiken's health prospect, had Occam's Razor
and had better explanatory power. If they were just using the
elbow as an pretense, even though they weren't really concerned
about it's impact on his pitching future, I don't imagine they'd
have carried things to the disastrous wall.
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Where did you get that the settlement was for the full $1.5M?
Certainly not from the link you posted where it says:
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> Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported the Astros and Nix had
reached a monetary settlement, though a size of the payout was
not reported.
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I'm not saying definitely he didn't get the full amount but no
one else is reporting he received $1.5M as a settlement. So did
you mis-read the article or do you have another source you can
link to that verifies the settlement amount?
#Post#: 204837--------------------------------------------------
Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: December 18, 2014, 4:51 pm
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> I think that if he doesn't go first (or perhaps second) in the
draft, it is because teams take the health problem seriously.
He was quite clearly the top player in the draft this year, and
should not lose any standing in next year's draft unless some
teams are scared off by the health reports.
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> Assuming, of course, that he pitches as well this year as he
did last year.
>
> Even some top prospects who actually HAD surgery still go in
the 10 to 20 range. For Aiken even to go 4th or 5th, I would
think that teams actually take the physical concerns seriously.
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If he goes 4th or 5th, that might indicate that 3 or four teams
took the concerns seriously. It would also indicate that at
least one team, the team taking him 4th or 5th, did not.
#Post#: 204859--------------------------------------------------
Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: davep
Date: December 18, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Isn't that what I said?
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: December 18, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Not at all.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: ticohans
Date: December 18, 2014, 7:22 pm
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That seems like the Astros gaming the system, honestly.
Either they broke a contract with Nix or they didn't. If they
did, they should be penalized by MLB. If they didn't, there's no
reason to settle for the contract value Nix was going to get.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: December 18, 2014, 8:55 pm
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Peter Gammons tweeted the $1.5 million figure the other day.
#Post#: 204881--------------------------------------------------
Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: DelMarFan
Date: December 18, 2014, 10:18 pm
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I think they should have been penalized. Beyond what
circumstance has dictated.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: Ron
Date: December 21, 2014, 1:35 pm
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John Manuel ‏@johnmanuelba 1h1 hour ago
Trying to line up #Cubs top 30, I knew system was heavy with
potential star power, but also impressed by depth. Actually 30
legit prospects
John Manuel ‏@johnmanuelba 1h1 hour ago
Doen't mean all 30 guys will be big leaguers or that I'll rank
'em right. But org has many, many options/trade pieces.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: craig
Date: December 21, 2014, 9:43 pm
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Thanks, Ron. That's encouraging, again.
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Re: On The Farm (11/14 - 08/15)
DIR By: JeffH
Date: January 1, 2015, 4:39 pm
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