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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 17, 2014, 1:10 pm
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       Check this out, I cant post it.
  HTML http://survivaljoe.net/blog/1-image-that-explains-the-bundy-ranch-standoff-in-60-seconds/?utm_source=140417SJ1&utm_campaign=140417SJ1
       Just a warning it doesn't load fast, but that video screen tells
       the whole story
       #Post#: 176269--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: otto105
       Date: April 17, 2014, 2:26 pm
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       olde white militia dude
       The Chinese solar crap that you're clinging too has been
       debunked as false. The Chinese abandoned the project over a year
       ago, yet you keep believing the stupid stories from the wingnuts
       sites that you travel.
       Are you that dense that facts can't penetrate your skull?
       #Post#: 176271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: otto105
       Date: April 17, 2014, 2:43 pm
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       Not the militia you wanted, but it's the only militia that puts
       women and children first...
       In an interview with TPM, former Arizona sheriff Richard mack
       claims he never thought it was a good idea to put women out
       front in case the shooting started at Cliven Bundy's Nevada
       melon and free cattle grazing on public land ranch. He told
       TPM's Dylan Scott "I never thought it was a good idea. I was
       kind of surprised by the fact that they did."
       But that's the opposite of he previously told radio host Ben
       Swann:
       “It was a tactical plot that I was trying to get them to use,”
       Mack said. “If they’re going to start killing people, I’m sorry,
       but to show the world how ruthless these people are, women
       needed to be the first ones shot.”
       “I’m sorry, that sounds horrible,” he continued. “I would have
       put my own wife or daughters there, and I would have been
       screaming bloody murder to watch them die.”
       nice
       #Post#: 176272--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: otto105
       Date: April 17, 2014, 2:50 pm
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       This can't be good for vote 50+ on the repeal and never replace
       PPACA for the party of olde white militia types...
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYyvAw5MOgw&feature=player_embedded
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYyvAw5MOgw&feature=player_embedded
       #Post#: 176273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: April 17, 2014, 2:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: otto105 link ---
       >
       > Not the militia you wanted, but it's the only militia that
       puts women and children first...
       >
       >
       > In an interview with TPM, former Arizona sheriff Richard mack
       claims he never thought it was a good idea to put women out
       front in case the shooting started at Cliven Bundy's Nevada
       melon and free cattle grazing on public land ranch. He told
       TPM's Dylan Scott "I never thought it was a good idea. I was
       kind of surprised by the fact that they did."
       >
       > But that's the opposite of he previously told radio host Ben
       Swann:
       >
       > “It was a tactical plot that I was trying to get them to
       use,” Mack said. “If they’re going to start
       killing people, I’m sorry, but to show the world how
       ruthless these people are, women needed to be the first ones
       shot.”
       >
       > “I’m sorry, that sounds horrible,” he
       continued. “I would have put my own wife or daughters
       there, and I would have been screaming bloody murder to watch
       them die.”
       >
       >
       > nice
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There wouldn't have even been a threat of shooting if the
       government stormtroopers hadn't invaded and stole the cattle.
       Looked like Elian Gonzalez all over again. Government out of
       control.
       #Post#: 176274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: April 17, 2014, 3:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: otto105 link ---
       >
       > olde white militia dude
       >
       >
       > The Chinese solar crap that you're clinging too has been
       debunked as false. The Chinese abandoned the project over a year
       ago, yet you keep believing the stupid stories from the wingnuts
       sites that you travel.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Then perhaps you would like to explain why now?  20 years this
       has been going on and suddenly it's so urgent that we have to
       send in 200 troops to threaten a single rancher. Why?
       #Post#: 176275--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: otto105
       Date: April 17, 2014, 3:04 pm
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       Are you really that blind? Stupid? Dense?
       How about reading the following before you get  white militia
       fool first.
  HTML http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-long-fight-between-cliven-bundy-and-the-federal-government/
  HTML http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-long-fight-between-cliven-bundy-and-the-federal-government/
       Try to think of pipe bombs.
       #Post#: 176276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: April 17, 2014, 3:06 pm
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       That tells me you don't have an answer. Why now?
       #Post#: 176278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: otto105
       Date: April 17, 2014, 3:08 pm
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       See above modified post and get back to me.
       #Post#: 176279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: April 17, 2014, 3:17 pm
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       Is this the pipe bomb issue? So no bombs since 1996 but now in
       2014 it a big enough issue to call out troops? Again I ask...if
       not in 1996 why now?
       "March 18, 1996: The federal government, which owns 87 percent
       of the land in Nevada,  is still worried about potential
       violence if they try to remove illegally grazing cattle from
       protected land. Two more pipebombs had exploded in Forest
       Service and Bureau of Land Management offices in the past two
       years. The Justice Department has 12 lawsuits pending against
       Nevada cattle ranchers. A federal court in the state struck down
       the Nye County ordinance that caused trouble the year before.
       Not that ranchers took that as reason to stand down, however.
       One local resident told USA Today,"A single district court
       decision in one district doesn't settle it. It's just a single
       day in the year of a revolutionary war. We're going to continue
       on with the fight." Bundy is also continuing to graze on federal
       lands. "I'm still saying the state of Nevada owns that land, and
       the federal government has been an encroacher. I'm not moving my
       cattle. We have ... rights." '
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