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       #Post#: 176236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 11:39 am
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       [quote author=otto105 link=topic=128.msg176227#msg176227
       date=1397750623]
       old white dude
       So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the
       lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop? So,
       if people claim squatting or occupy rights to federal lands
       anywhere you would be good with it? If a Liberal leaning 401c
       that filed papers for the tax exemption turned around and
       engaged on political activity you would be fine with?
       [/quote]
       Holder is protecting a lot of unlawful acts by Dumbocrats. In
       fact he is protecting himself in Fast and Furious for one thing.
       He is protecting himself for directing Lois Lerner. He keeps
       trying so snuff out damaging e-mails by trying to block access
       to them.
       As for the tax exempts for conservative groups, I'd be fine with
       that provided they did that for liberal groups, unions, and
       community activist groups. Whats fair for the goose is fair for
       the gander, but don't make a rule for one political group but
       not the other. As for liberal groups doing political work, you
       mean they aren't? Of course they are doing so and you know that.
       Proof? You will be right back by denying it so you know it has
       to be true. The point is you just want liberal groups doing it
       and conservative groups not doing it. You don't think unions
       don't go around soliciting money for political candidates from
       their members? I was union and I know that's false.
       #Post#: 176237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 11:42 am
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       And another thing Oddo since you are so pro enforcing the laws,
       why haven't you voiced your call for Holder to arrest all the
       illegal aliens for crossing the border illegally?
       #Post#: 176238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Keysbear Date: April 17, 2014, 11:55 am
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       Only Otto could support the BLM sending 200 troops with
       automatic weapons to surround one lone rancher over a grazing
       fee debt. Harry Reid must really want that land bad.
       #Post#: 176241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 12:01 pm
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       His son does. His son is set to make millions
       #Post#: 176244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: navigator Date: April 17, 2014, 12:09 pm
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       after reading a little more about this situation it looks like
       the family was leasing the land for years until the Federal govt
       took the land from the state. When the Feds confiscated the land
       the family quit paying the lease.
       #Post#: 176248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 12:34 pm
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       Rand Paul says the land should b transferred back to the state.
       Oh and the Feds control 81% of all Nevada land.
       #Post#: 176250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: davep Date: April 17, 2014, 12:35 pm
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       That lone rancher is violating the law.  I have a problem with
       people screaming that illegal aliens should be prosecuted, but
       giving a pass to someone that is not only flagrantly violating
       the law, but doing so violently.
       The Clinton administration foolishly waited months before going
       into Waco to deal with similar situations.  I hope that the
       Obama administration doesn't do the same.
       #Post#: 176253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 12:39 pm
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       The issue at stake really is the land rights that go back to the
       1880's which is the source of the disagreement. That issue
       should be brought before the Supreme Court. Its like the old
       Spanish land grants. Some of those claims aren't honored.
       #Post#: 176259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Keysbear Date: April 17, 2014, 12:57 pm
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       [quote author=davep link=topic=128.msg176250#msg176250
       date=1397756104]
       That lone rancher is violating the law.  I have a problem with
       people screaming that illegal aliens should be prosecuted, but
       giving a pass to someone that is not only flagrantly violating
       the law, but doing so violently.
       The Clinton administration foolishly waited months before going
       into Waco to deal with similar situations.  I hope that the
       Obama administration doesn't do the same.
       [/quote]
       I have not heard that the rancher was violent. I also have not
       heard that the rancher was in any way endangering children as
       was the allegation in Waco so I thnk that's an apples and
       oranges thing. It appears to me to be simply a money issue. If I
       owe my town money they put a lein on my house and wait until I
       sell or die to collect their loot. They don't send in
       stormtroopers to steal my property.
       #Post#: 176260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 1:07 pm
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       But they have to send in storm troopers in because Rory Reid has
       already sold the land to the Chinese. They cant wait for Bundy
       to die. And it was sold for 11% of the actual value.
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