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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 7:27 am
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Rand Paul Questions Number Of Armed Federal Agents, Criticizes
Government Treatment Of Rancher
April 16, 2014 by Sam Rolley
Rand Paul Questions Number Of Armed Federal Agents, Criticizes
Government Treatment Of Rancher
While many GOP politicians remain mum on the Federal response to
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s refusal to pay grazing fees,
Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) criticized the government’s actions
this week.
During a radio interview, Paul called out Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and questioned why the government has so
many armed personnel.
After a tense standoff between Federal agents and Bundy
supporters, some of whom were armed, culminated in the
government backing down and releasing the rancher’s livestock,
Reid said Monday that the standoff is far from over.
“Well, it’s not over,” Reid told KRNV. “We can’t have an
American people that violate the law and then just walk away
from it. So it’s not over.”
American citizens shouldn’t violate the law, Paul agreed—
however, the government shouldn’t either.
“I think there’s an opposite thing to what Harry Reid said, and
that’s the federal government shouldn’t violate the law, nor
should we have 48 Federal agencies carrying weapons and having
SWAT teams,” Paul said Tuesday in a radio interview with the
Kentucky-based WHAS.
The lawmaker went on to say that the disputed land, which the
Bundy family had leased from the county before a Federal
takeover, should be returned to local control—a goal he believes
can be best achieved in court.
“Can everybody decide what the law is on their own? No, there
has to be a legal process,” he said. “But I think there is
definitely a philosophic debate over who should own the land.
“I hope it’ll go through a court. But if it were in a court, I
would be siding and wanting to say that look, the States and the
individuals in the State should own these lands,” he continued.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 7:52 am
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Report: Emails Show Justice Dept. Involved in IRS Tea Party
Probe
Image: Report: Emails Show Justice Dept. Involved in IRS Tea
Party Probe
Wednesday, 16 Apr 2014 07:01 PM
By Todd Beamon
Embattled former IRS official Lois Lerner last year discussed
working with the Justice Department to prosecute nonprofit
organizations that she felt had "lied" about their political
activities, according to new documents released on Wednesday by
Judicial Watch about the agency's targeting of conservative
groups.
The new documents show Lerner's communications with Justice
within days of publicly acknowledging that the Internal Revenue
Service was singling out tea party, conservative, and religious
groups.
They also indicate that the targeting may have reached further
into the Obama White House despite Lerner's original assertions
that it was all based out of the agency's Cincinnati field
office.
In a May 8 email, for instance, Lerner said that she had
received a call from Richard Pilger, director of the elections
crimes unit at Justice.
Pilger asked whether the IRS could help the department "piece
together false statement cases about applicants who 'lied'" on a
particular IRS form, "saying they weren’t planning on doing
political activity, and then turning around and making large
visible political expenditures.
"DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to
the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from
our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs,"
Lerner said in the email.
"I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from
IRS…," she said.
Lerner wrote the email to Nikole Flax, who was chief of staff
at the time to Steven Miller, who was the acting IRS
commissioner.
She responded in an email the next day: "I think we should do
it -- also need to include CI [Criminal Investigation Division],
which we can help coordinate. Also, we need to reach out to
[Federal Election Commission]. Does it make sense to consider
including them in this or keep it separate?"
Lerner, who retired last September, oversaw the unit that
evaluated applications for tax-exempt status. Miller was fired
because of the scandal, and Flax has reportedly been targeted by
congressional investigators.
Judicial Watch said on Wednesday that it had obtained the
emails through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed last
October. The watchdog group has sought documents showing how the
IRS had targeted the groups between 2010 and the 2012
presidential election.
Judicial Watch filed the lawsuit after the IRS failed to
respond to four FOIA requests dating back to last May.
"These new emails show that the day before she broke the news
of the IRS scandal, Lois Lerner was talking to a top Obama
Justice Department official about whether the DOJ could
prosecute the very same organizations that the IRS had already
improperly targeted," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said
in a statement. "The IRS emails show Eric Holder’s Department of
Justice is now implicated and conflicted in the IRS scandal."
Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and
Government Reform Committee that has been investigating the
scandal, said the new emails underscored "the political nature
of IRS tea party targeting and the extent to which supposed
apolitical officials took direction from elected Democrats.
"These e-mails are part of an overwhelming body of evidence
that political pressure from prominent Democrats led to the
targeting of Americans for their political beliefs," the
California Republican said in a statement.
"Now I see why the IRS is scared to give up the rest of Lois
Lerner's emails,” Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan said in a statement.
The documents "further prove the coordination among the IRS,
the Federal Election Commission, the Justice Department and
committee Democrats to target conservatives," he said.
Jordan added that had the oversight panel not become involved,
"Eric Holder’s politicized Justice Department would likely have
been leveling trumped-up criminal charges against tea party
groups to intimidate them from exercising their Constitutional
rights."
President Barack Obama has denied GOP charges that the
targeting of the groups was politically motivated or illegal,
telling Fox News in February that "not even a smidgen of
corruption" was involved in the specialized screening.
In addition, emails Issa's panel released last week showed that
staff members of the oversight committee's ranking Democrat,
Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, had shared information with
the IRS that effectively led the agency to investigate True the
Vote after the group filed its application for tax-exempt status
in 2010.
Cummings did not disclose any of those dealings with oversight
committee Republicans, Issa charged.
In a March 27 email, Lerner told IRS staffers about an April 9
2013, hearing — and the document also suggests that the other
Obama administration departments might have been targeting the
conservative groups.
The tax-exempt status the groups were seeking was 501(c)(4),
which allows them to keep their donors private.
"There are several groups of folks from the FEC world that are
pushing tax fraud prosecution for c4s who report they are not
conducting political activity when they are (or these folks
think they are)," Lerner wrote in the email.
"One is my ex-boss Larry Noble (former general counsel at the
the FEC), who is now president of Americans for Campaign
Reform," she added.
"This is their latest push to shut these down.
"One IRS prosecution would make an impact and they wouldn't
feel so comfortable doing the stuff," Lerner said. "So, don't be
fooled about how this is being articulated — it is ALL about
501(c)(4) orgs and political activity."
Lerner ignited the controversy last May when she disclosed the
scandal in response to a question asked at a conference in
Chicago.
Her response came just before the Treasury Department's
inspector general released a report disclosing the targeting.
President Obama fired Miller — and at least three other IRS
workers have been placed on put on administrative leave.
In testimony before the oversight committee, Lerner has twice
invoked the Fifth Amendment, though she has denied wrongdoing.
The panel voted last week to hold her in contempt for her
refusals.
If the full House finds Lerner in contempt, the matter would be
referred to federal prosecutors.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 8:08 am
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Rep. Blackburn on Idea of Sebelius as Senator: Hah!
Thursday, 17 Apr 2014 06:37 AM
There's no way Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen
Sebelius can win a Senate seat, Rep. Marsha Blackburn says.
Blackburn, a Tennessee Republican, was stunned at reports that
Sebelius — widely blamed for the disastrous rollout of the
Affordable Care Act — is mulling a run for U.S. Senate in
Kansas.
"I cannot imagine that she could think she could go back to
Kansas after, as she said, she was responsible for the debacle
of the HealthCare.gov rollout," Blackburn told "The Steve
Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.
"I cannot imagine her saying, 'I'm going to go put my name on
the ballot.' That would be a seat that a Republican would
certainly win," Blackburn said Wednesday.
Blackburn is also concerned by a new report from Judicial Watch
that indicates former IRS official Lois Lerner wanted to sic the
Justice Department on conservative groups the IRS was targeting.
"It shows a complete disregard for the ethics and integrity of
what they are sworn to do and supposed to do with the IRS," said
Blackburn, who is vice chairwoman of the House Energy and
Commerce Committee.
"It's supposed to be an independent agency free of political
pressures and implications, and what we have seen is that they
have gone about politicizing lots of agencies, whether it is CMS
or HHS or the ETA or the IRS or Fish and Wildlife, you name it,"
she said.
"Look at the amount of overreach and inappropriate activity
that has taken place by taking the federal government and using
it as a weapon against our fellow citizens, and we're seeing it
across the board."
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 8:12 am
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That has to be the biggest joke of the year.
Maybe she should hire our Oddo to be her campaign manager. That
might be even funnier.
#Post#: 176216--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: WshflThinking Date: April 17, 2014, 8:15 am
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OTOH Oddo would likely lose his welfare checks if he took the
job. NO......he'd whine to Obama who would fix it so he could
take the job and still keep his welfare money. Obama can fix
anything
#Post#: 176227--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: otto105 Date: April 17, 2014, 11:03 am
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old white dude
So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the
lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop? So,
if people claim squatting or occupy rights to federal lands
anywhere you would be good with it? If a Liberal leaning 401c
that filed papers for the tax exemption turned around and
engaged on political activity you would be fine with?
#Post#: 176228--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: davep Date: April 17, 2014, 11:03 am
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[quote author=Jackiejokeman link=topic=128.msg176199#msg176199
date=1397711247]
Who started the Rand Corporation ? Yer gonna shit when you find
out.
Look it up.
[/quote]
No need to look it up. It was started by the Douglas Aircraft
company. Is that significant of something?
#Post#: 176229--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: otto105 Date: April 17, 2014, 11:04 am
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Martha....let the stupid flow...
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlcFzW5GZo8&feature=player_detailpage
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlcFzW5GZo8&feature=player_detailpage
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: otto105 Date: April 17, 2014, 11:08 am
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And flow and flow.....
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eOCqC-Xs0&feature=player_detailpage
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eOCqC-Xs0&feature=player_detailpage
#Post#: 176231--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
By: Keysbear Date: April 17, 2014, 11:15 am
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[quote author=otto105 link=topic=128.msg176227#msg176227
date=1397750623]
So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the
lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop?
[/quote]
No, I thnk Eric Holder's DOJ has that covered.
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