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       Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Dave23 Date: April 15, 2014, 3:21 pm
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       worst topic on the board (next to the Green Bay talk, anyway...)
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: otto105 Date: April 15, 2014, 4:10 pm
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       Get a better team, win more Super Bowls than the Packers and we
       can talk.
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: April 15, 2014, 4:22 pm
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       WOO HOO ! POST #3 !!!
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: guest118 Date: April 15, 2014, 4:35 pm
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       This is for Oddo and his savior Nobama....
       The Obama Administration just keeps lying!!!!! All they do is
       lie.........
       A study released Tuesday by the non-profit RAND Corporation
       found that only 3.9 million people have enrolled in the
       Obamacare exchanges--a much smaller number than the 7 million
       sign-ups touted by the Obama administration:
       By our estimate, 3.9 million people are now covered through the
       state and federal marketplaces. This number is lower than
       current estimates of marketplace enrollment through the end of
       March from the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS),
       perhaps because some of the [Health Reform Opinion Study] data
       were collected in early March. All HROS data collection reported
       here ended on March 28, and therefore missed the last three days
       of the open enrollment period, during which time there was a
       surge in enrollment.
       The study also found that people gaining employer-provided
       insurance was the biggest reason why the uninsured rate has
       dropped in recent months:
       Of those who were previously uninsured but are now insured, 7.2
       million gained [employer-sponsored insurance], 3.6 million are
       now covered by Medicaid, 1.4 million signed up through the
       marketplaces, and the remainder gained coverage through other
       sources.
       If the 1.4 million figure is correct, that means that less than
       0.5 percent of the U.S. population gained insurance through the
       Obamacare exchanges. Of course, it's certainly possible that the
       Obama administration's estimates are closer to the mark. But
       even if that's the case, it's highly unlikely that more than 1
       percent of the U.S. population gained insurance--that is, they
       were previously uninsured but are now insured--because of the
       Obamacare exchanges.
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: guest118 Date: April 15, 2014, 4:36 pm
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       Real Obamacare sign-up #s (from Rand): 1.4 million. The rest
       were either thrown off old insurance or got Medicaid
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 15, 2014, 5:20 pm
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       Reports: Company Tied to Reid's Son Wants Land in Bundy Standoff
       
       Image: Reports: Company Tied to Reid's Son Wants Land in Bundy
       Standoff  Rory Reid
       
       Sunday, 13 Apr 2014 08:48 PM
       By Greg Richter
       The Nevada rancher who forced the federal Bureau of Land
       Management to back down last week may have been targeted because
       a Chinese solar company with ties to Sen. Harry Reid's son wants
       the land for an energy plant, several websites report.
       A report on Godfatherpolitics.com,  says Chinese energy giant
       ENN Energy Group wants to use federal land as part of its effort
       to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel-building plant in the
       southern Nevada desert. Rory Reid, the son of Senate Majority
       Leader Harry Reid, is representing ENN in their efforts to
       locate in Nevada.
       Part of the land ENN wants to use was purchased from Clark
       County at well below appraised value. Rory Reid is the former
       Clark County Commission chairman, and he persuaded the
       commission to sell 9,000 acres of county land to ENN on the
       promise it would provide jobs for the area, Reuters reported in
       2012.
       In addition to the county acreage, the federal Bureau of Land
       Management at one time was looking at BLM property under dispute
       with cattle rancher Cliven Bundy. The BLM is headed by former
       Harry Reid senior policy adviser Neil Kornz.
       According to BizPac Review, BLM documents indicate that the
       federal property for which Bundy claims grazing rights were
       under consideration by a solar energy company. Those documents
       have since been removed from BLM's website, but BizPac quotes
       from one of them:
       "Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the
       regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone
       utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for
       impacts from solar development, and that those restoration
       activities are not durable with the presence of trespass
       cattle."
       "Trespass cattle" is a reference to Bundy's herd. Bundy's
       family has grazed cattle on the land since the 1870s, and Bundy
       maintains he has grazing rights to the federal land. But he
       hasn't paid his federal grazing fees in 20 years in a dispute
       with the BLM.
       BLM agents hired contract cowboys earlier this year to seize
       hundreds of head of cattle and were moving in to seize the rest
       when militia members from across the country and other
       supporters showed up last week.
       Citing a dangerous situation, the BLM backed off its efforts
       and returned Bundy's cattle Saturday, but it has vowed to
       continue fighting him in court and administratively.
       In its effort to get Bundy off the land, it has attempted to
       get him to reduce his 1,000-head herd to 150, The Blaze's Dana
       Loesch reports. Bundy says his ranch would not be viable with a
       herd that small.
       The BLM claims a need to control grazing on the land to protect
       an endangered desert tortoise. But Loesch and others note that
       in August, the tortoise population in a nearby conservation
       center was set to be euthanized because of underfunding.
       The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service denied those reports, saying
       that only unhealthy tortoises would be euthanized and others
       would be relocated. But KVVU-TV in Las Vegas reported that the
       agency didn't say how many of the tortoises in its care were
       deemed "healthy."
       Further, Loesch reports, Harry Reid pressured the BLM to change
       the tortoise's protected zone to accommodate developer Harvey
       Whittemore, one of the Democrat's top donors. Whittemore was
       convicted in May 2013 of making illegal campaign contributions
       to him.
       "BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the
       desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules
       concerning wind or solar power development," Loesch writes.
       "Clearly, these developments have vastly affected a tortoise
       habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing
       area. If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor."
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       #Post#: 176021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: April 15, 2014, 5:57 pm
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       Hey Wsh,
       
       Gotta ask ya ... can you repost the e-mail from your friend
       about WWII?
       
       I think I can post the pics mentioned but I need to know which
       ones from that e-mail.
       #Post#: 176022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: Pekin Date: April 15, 2014, 6:11 pm
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       You could just give him your e-mail and he could send it to you
       like he asked.  :)
       Just saying...
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 15, 2014, 6:48 pm
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       JJ if I had an e-mail address I might be able to forward it but
       I am not sure I still have it. The planes were awesome. Let me
       check to see if I still have it
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       Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
       By: WshflThinking Date: April 15, 2014, 6:49 pm
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       Yes I still have it. I've been waiting for somebody to want it
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