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#Post#: 438--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs History
By: Cactus Date: April 5, 2011, 12:30 am
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April 5, 1997 - Just one day after the stadium's first game,
Turner Field holds its first slumber party. Rain showers force
Saturday night's Cubs-Braves game to be suspended in the seventh
inning late Saturday night, but because of the change to
daylight savings time and a day game on Sunday, several players
decide to spend the night in the clubhouse at the brand-new
stadium. The Braves win the completion of the suspended game,
11-5, and then win the regularly scheduled game, 4-0.
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Re: Cubs History
By: FITS Date: April 5, 2011, 7:29 am
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Trivia Answer (better late then never)
First CUBS game at Weeghman/Wrigley was April 20, 1916, a 7-6
victory over the Cincinnati Reds in 11 innings.
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Re: Cubs History
By: Jes Beard Date: April 5, 2011, 8:02 am
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[quote author=Clarkaddison link=topic=12.msg422#msg422
date=1301938601]
Although I'm not excusing Anson, he was just reflecting the
tempo of his time. There were other instances of managers
refusing to play against blacks, but he was the Babe Ruth of his
day, so his refusal carried more weight.
[/quote]
No doubt there was plenty of racism to go around. At the time
of the Civil War, many norther states had laws on the books
which did at least one of the following: 1) Prohibited blacks
from living in any incorporated area in the state; 2) Made it
illegal to employ blacks in any incorporated area in the state;
or 3) Prohibited blacks from being present after dark in any
incorporated are in the state. Indiana (my home state) had all
three. Some states made it illegal for black to move into the
state.
None of that changes the fact that Anson led the resistance to
blacks playing in organized baseball at the time, and without
him leading the resistance, and refusing to allow his team to
take the field if blacks played, the normal forces of market
competition would likely have resulted in integration of
baseball in the 1800's. Not smoothly or in any friendly or
embracing manner, but it likely would have happened.
And, even if it would not have happened, Anson's position on the
issue still leaves him a POS.
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Re: Cubs History
By: Tuffy Date: April 5, 2011, 9:30 am
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Jes, if you think integration would have happened in the late
1800s if not for Anson, why didn't it happen in the first
decades of the 20th century, when Anson was out of baseball?
There was an explosion of talent on Negro teams, particularly in
Chicago and New York, in those years. Weren't there other
racists preventing integration by then?
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Re: Cubs History
By: Clarkaddison Date: April 5, 2011, 11:04 am
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Read Anson's ghost written biography, available free through
Amazon ebooks. He comes off as an arrogant, self centered
individual. There is no mention of the color line in the book,
but he had an acrimonious breakup with the Colts at the end of
his career, and has lots to say about Spaulding and Chicago NL
management. (They weren't the Cubs before 1902).
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Re: Cubs History
By: Jes Beard Date: April 5, 2011, 12:08 pm
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Tuffy, integration WAS happening early in the 20th century. The
military and all federal offices were integrated before Woodrow
Wilson was elected president.
He RE-segregated them. Before Wilson blacks and whites worked
side by side in government offices and in the military. Wilson
ended that. The Klan had also faded to near nothingness by
then. Birth of a Nation, which was essentially an ode to the
Klan, then came out, and Wilson very strongly praised the movie,
which he claimed was not only important for everyone to see, but
historically accurate.
He was the President. And he was a former university professor
and the president of Princeton University. Folks accepted what
he said about the movie, flocked to it and absorbed its racist
message, one Wilson himself championed.
The Negro leagues did not begin to form until nearly 1920, and
by then the Klan had enjoyed the greatest growth and popularity
it has ever seen, at least in part because it was not only
accepted by the establishment (Wilson), but virtually blessed as
a wonderful organization with great ideals.
Before the Negro leagues, black players were able to barnstorm
with white players, but that was about it.
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Re: Cubs History
By: FITS Date: April 5, 2011, 12:16 pm
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Today's Trivia
The 1977 Cubs donned black armbands on the sleeves of their
jerseys in memory of whom?
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Re: Cubs History
By: brs2 Date: April 5, 2011, 12:20 pm
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To honor PK Wrigley.
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Re: Cubs History
By: Tuffy Date: April 5, 2011, 1:11 pm
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Jes, I hadn't known that about Woodrow Wilson. Interestnig
stuff.
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Re: Cubs History
By: Cactus Date: April 5, 2011, 1:50 pm
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Jackie Robinson
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