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       #Post#: 164800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: January 17, 2014, 5:17 pm
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       Looking up the highest salaries in baseball it looks to me like
       the going market for a legitimate #1 starter seems to start at
       about 20 million per.
       While I have no idea what Tanaka will cost lets just say for
       shits and giggles we do end up having to go something like 7/140
       to sign him.
       My question to the board is this...
       Who would you think would be the safest bet for that contract?
       Tanaka or Samardzija?
       I dont particularly want to give Samardzija that much but if I
       had to choose one or the other I think I'd go with Samardzija.
       #Post#: 164801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: PRCubFan
       Date: January 17, 2014, 5:30 pm
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       The Cubs convention starts today.  Any chance they bring out
       Tanaka when they introduce the players tonight?  :-)
       #Post#: 164802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: January 17, 2014, 5:30 pm
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       Strop's deal is for $1.325 million.
       Cubs filed $4.4 million for Samardzija, while Samardzija is
       asking for $6.2 million.
       #Post#: 164803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: January 17, 2014, 5:32 pm
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       Here are all the arbitration numbers:
       --- Quote ---
       >
       > Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub
       > Four arb Cubs left: Smarj (filed $6.2m; club filed at $4.4m),
       Wood ($4.25m-$$3.5m), Barney ($2.8m-$1.8m), Ruggiano
       ($2.45m-$1.6m).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wood and Ruggiano look like pretty easy compromises.  The other
       two are harder.
       #Post#: 164805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: January 17, 2014, 5:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: JIGGY link ---
       >
       > Looking up the highest salaries in baseball it looks to me
       like the going market for a legitimate #1 starter seems to start
       at about 20 million per.
       >
       > While I have no idea what Tanaka will cost lets just say for
       ****s and giggles we do end up having to go something like 7/140
       to sign him.
       >
       > My question to the board is this...
       >
       > Who would you think would be the safest bet for that contract?
       >
       > Tanaka or Samardzija?
       >
       > I dont particularly want to give Samardzija that much but if I
       had to choose one or the other I think I'd go with Samardzija.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think your numbers for a #1/2 starter are low.  Salaries for
       baseball players are going to get very expensive with all of the
       TV money.  I think that Kershaw's AAV at $30 million will become
       cheap.  So if your asking I'd take both of them at $20
       million/year and be very happy.  If I had to go 7 years, I'd
       prefer Tanaka to Samardzija just do to age.  I'd really like to
       avoid giving any pitcher 7 years though.
       #Post#: 164811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: January 17, 2014, 6:16 pm
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       Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 42m
       Four arb Cubs left: Smarj (filed $6.2m; club filed at $4.4m),
       Wood ($4.25m-$$3.5m), Barney ($2.8m-$1.8m), Ruggiano
       ($2.45m-$1.6m).
       Wood is the closest (a "mere" $750,000), I really hope an
       agreement can be reached with him, at least.
       #Post#: 164812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: January 17, 2014, 6:55 pm
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       Bruce Miles ‏@BruceMiles2112 2m
       In 17 years on The #Cubs beat, that was The most subdued opening
       ceremony I've witnessed at convention
       #Post#: 164813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: January 17, 2014, 7:06 pm
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       Hell what is there to be jacked about? George Kottaras?
       #Post#: 164814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: January 17, 2014, 7:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: JIGGY link ---
       >
       > Looking up the highest salaries in baseball it looks to me
       like the going market for a legitimate #1 starter seems to start
       at about 20 million per.
       >
       > While I have no idea what Tanaka will cost lets just say for
       ****s and giggles we do end up having to go something like 7/140
       to sign him.
       >
       > My question to the board is this...
       >
       > Who would you think would be the safest bet for that contract?
       >
       > Tanaka or Samardzija?
       >
       > I dont particularly want to give Samardzija that much but if I
       had to choose one or the other I think I'd go with Samardzija.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no requirement that EITHER be given that kind of money.
       Smardj has been around for a while now, is no longer a young
       pitcher, and has never established himself as an ace.  Giving
       that kind of money to someone under contract and control, who
       has never established himself as an ace, AND who is not young,
       makes no sense.  Smardj could not get that kind of contract if
       he were a total free agent.
       #Post#: 164825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '14
   DIR By: davep
       Date: January 17, 2014, 8:28 pm
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       I believe that if Samardzija were a free agent now, he would
       easily get 20 million per year.
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