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#Post#: 169180--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 1, 2014, 12:29 pm
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Kolek's delivery is screwy; he practically steps towards third
before slinging the ball home. I'd be leery of taking him.
Beede's delivery looked fine to me. Quite simple in fact.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: March 1, 2014, 3:41 pm
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I don't want Kolek. He's just too raw. He might be the best
pitcher in the draft or never get out of A ball. Beede's
supposed to be much more consistent so far this year. Last year
he was all over the place.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: March 1, 2014, 6:09 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
>
> I don't want Kolek. He's just too raw. He might be the best
pitcher in the draft or never get out of A ball. Beede's
supposed to be much more consistent so far this year. Last year
he was all over the place.
>
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Nolan Ryan was drafted out of high school and had his first
really good season at age 25. I really don't think the front
office has their eye on the 2021 season, nor do I think it's
likely Kolek will be the next Nolan Ryan. He's most likely a
reliever, with the ceiling of Arodis Chapman and the floor of
Dean Burk, a long-ago Cubs' prospect who could hit 100+, but
couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 1, 2014, 6:18 pm
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Rodon: 7-3-2-1-3-8, 2 HB
7 HB's in 28 IP.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: ben
Date: March 1, 2014, 11:52 pm
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It's very early in the season, but Beebe's numbers are excellent
so far (including his BB/9)...that he held Stanford in check
over 7 is a good sign.
Derek Johnson will know him very well...if he likes him, I
suspect Cubs are very interested. Big-time arm and he seems
very smart/articulate.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 2, 2014, 11:52 pm
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Turner: 1-3, 2 RBI, 2 BB, E
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Reb
Date: March 3, 2014, 12:33 pm
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Latest from Keith Law on Beede and, in last paragraph, top few
guys:
I've seen Tyler Beede pitch at least a half a dozen times dating
back to the summer before his junior year of high school, and
while he's always been good, he'd never put together the single
dominating performance where he'd show both stuff and command
that would make me feel he was a clear top-10 or top-five pick.
He did that on Friday night, an outing against a good lineup
(Stanford) that had area scouts walking away saying the same
thing: That's the Tyler Beede we've all been waiting for.
Beede has had some ups and downs over his long career as a top
amateur prospect; in high school he had average velocity, a good
changeup and good feel for his age, with an easy delivery, but
in 2013 he started throwing harder with much worse command.
Friday night, he had it all, with good downhill plane on a 92-95
mph fastball, holding his velocity throughout his outing. His
changeup was once again his out pitch, 80-83 with downward fade
to left-handers, but with a little cut to it when he threw it to
right-handers, demonstrating a precocious ability to manipulate
the baseball. His curveball was his least consistent pitch, but
the majority were above-average or better, 80-81 mph with tight
rotation and an 11-to-5 break. He stayed ahead of hitters almost
the whole night, and his fastball command was the best it's been
in years.
Beede works with a full windup and a high leg kick, staying tall
and strong over the rubber before his stride forward. He barely
rotates his hips, so a lot of that power is coming from his
upper body relative to what he gets from his lower half. It's a
healthy stride and he finishes really well over his front side,
unsurprising for a good overall athlete who showed he can field
his position well, too.
Toronto drafted Beede in the first round in 2011, but didn't
sign him as the two sides disagreed over several aspects of the
negotiations, only one part of which was the money. A reader
commented to me that he wished the Jays had ponied up for Beede,
but that criticism is unfair, as the Jays did offer more than $2
million (well over slot) to him, a very reasonable sum given the
kind of prospect he was at that time. He's going to make more
than that in June, however, as it's hard for me to imagine that
he's not a top-five pick, with only Carlos Rodon and Tyler Kolek
clearly ahead of him at this point, assuming (and hoping)
everyone stays healthy. Beede should be in every team's mix from
pick No. 3 on, in the same decision set as East Carolina's Jeff
Hoffman, whom I saw last week, and UNLV's Erick Fedde, who has
come out very strongly this spring.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: Dave23
Date: March 3, 2014, 12:49 pm
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Based on what we know right now, how would y'all rank these 4?
Beede, Hoffman, Kolek, Rodon
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: March 3, 2014, 12:55 pm
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Chance Crawford from ESPN did a piece on Nola. He talked about
his low arm slot being a concern for him starting long term. He
gave him a #3/4 starter upside and said he was likely a
mid-first round pick.
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Re: 2014 Draft
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: March 3, 2014, 2:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
>
> Based on what we know right now, how would y'all rank these 4?
>
> Beede, Hoffman, Kolek, Rodon
>
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I think Rodon is the clear #1 right now unless something drastic
happens between now and June. After him, I kinda like Beede and
then Hoffman. Nola is a bit of a sleeper for me but I don't
think the Theocracy is gonna pick a pitcher that high.
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