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       #Post#: 154047--------------------------------------------------
       2014 Draft
   DIR By: mO
       Date: October 26, 2013, 2:11 pm
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       blah
       #Post#: 154055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: BullingersEars
       Date: October 26, 2013, 5:06 pm
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       I really like Jeff Hoffman's mechanics and stuff.  A bit
       concerned about the K rate.
       #Post#: 155927--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2013, 8:04 am
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       I don't know if he will make it to the Cubs, but NC State SS Tre
       Turner was timed at home to first on a bunt at 3.4 seconds as a
       RH hitter.  From what I've seen Billy Hamilton is home to first
       at 4 seconds.  Turner should be able to stick at SS and has a
       better bat than Hamilton.  If he is around as much as I want a
       pitcher that would be really hard to pass up.
       #Post#: 155941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: November 9, 2013, 11:16 am
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       3.4?
       Is that an accurate time?
       Has anyone heard of anyone else with a time that good?
       At that speed on a bunt, if the guy can put the bat on the ball
       at all the rest of the time he would be a nightmare for
       infielders to defend.
       #Post#: 155949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: November 9, 2013, 11:46 am
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       Turner should more than be able to stick at SS, from what I've
       read. Supposedly plays elite defense. Great character guy, too.
       Fits the McHoyerStein model (top notch athleticism, high floor,
       strong character and work ethic) pretty well. I'd love for the
       Cubs to take him at 4. Given the relative risk of pitchers
       verses hitters, and a collegiate hitter who augments the package
       with world class speed and top tier defense, I could see an
       argument for Turner 1st overall.
       #Post#: 155951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: November 9, 2013, 11:51 am
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       --- Quote from: ticohans link ---
       >
       > Turner should more than be able to stick at SS, from what I've
       read. Supposedly plays elite defense. Great character guy, too.
       Fits the McHoyerStein model (top notch athleticism, high floor,
       strong character and work ethic) pretty well. I'd love for the
       Cubs to take him at 4. Given the relative risk of pitchers
       verses hitters, and a collegiate hitter who augments the package
       with world class speed and top tier defense, I could see an
       argument for Turner 1st overall.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was also wondering just how likely it would be that he had any
       chance of making it to the 4th pick.
       How is the guy's bat overall?  And does he have any feel for
       stealing?  Does he use his speed well in that department?
       #Post#: 155955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: November 9, 2013, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: ticohans link ---
       >
       > Turner should more than be able to stick at SS, from what I've
       read. Supposedly plays elite defense. Great character guy, too.
       Fits the McHoyerStein model (top notch athleticism, high floor,
       strong character and work ethic) pretty well. I'd love for the
       Cubs to take him at 4. Given the relative risk of pitchers
       verses hitters, and a collegiate hitter who augments the package
       with world class speed and top tier defense, I could see an
       argument for Turner 1st overall.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Law just ranked Turner #15 overall, which is an outlier
       evaluation, but probably reflects that there is a minority view
       around baseball that currently has Turner out of the top 5 for
       some. Obviously, a lot will depend on his offensive showing next
       season but you have to hit to utilize speed. If he's real deal,
       would love to pair him with Almora at top of lineup. All this
       way premature of course but fun.
       #Post#: 155961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2013, 1:11 pm
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       As a freshman he was 57/61, which would have ranked him 133 in
       SB totals for college teams.  As a sophomore he was 30/36, but a
       high ankle sprain limited him all year.  He has more pop than
       Campana/Hamilton, but speed is his best attribute.  He also had
       another time to first at 4 seconds, only thing there was he
       slowed down before the hitting the bag.
       #Post#: 155966--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: Cubsin
       Date: November 9, 2013, 2:37 pm
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       Turner might be the best prospect left at #4, but I have some
       reservations about drafting a right-handed hitting middle
       infielder when we already have Baez, Castro, Alcantara, Barney,
       Amaya, Penalver and others who can play there. I'd be much
       happier with the best remaining pitching prospect on the board,
       even if he's a high school pitcher.
       #Post#: 155969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 Draft
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2013, 3:00 pm
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       Always take the BPA if it is a pitcher or position player.  I'd
       love for the Cubs to draft a pitcher with #1/2 upside, but
       Turner's speed would be really hard to ignore.
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