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#Post#: 5206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 2, 2011, 5:29 pm
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The current reports are that he was unarmed when he was shot to
death.
#Post#: 5207--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Chris27 Date: May 2, 2011, 5:40 pm
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I haven't seen those, but I'll take you word for it.
There are still conflicting reports on this and other details,
probably ones we'll never know for sure.
Reuters’ Mark Hosenball is reporting that the U.S. special
forces that raided Osama bin Laden’s compound Sunday were under
orders to kill the terrorist leader, not capture him. But an
administration official tells TIME that the report is not
accurate.
...
UPDATE 2:04 p.m.: As expected, White House counterterrorism
adviser John Brennan confirmed that this was not a kill-only
mission at the White House briefing. ” We certainly were
planning for the possibility, which we thought was going to be
remote,” Brennan said of capturing Bin Laden alive. ” If we had
the opportunity to take him alive we would have done that.”
Read more:
HTML http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/official-bin-laden-mission-was-kill-or-capture-not-just-kill/#ixzz1LEmxcAIM
#Post#: 5212--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 6:17 pm
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Cement overshoes was the best option. The media circus of a
trial; the costs of a trial; the terrorist pr of a trial. This
was for the best.
#Post#: 5228--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Eastcoastfan Date: May 2, 2011, 7:22 pm
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The coward apparently used one of his wives as a human shield.
#Post#: 5237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 7:41 pm
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Has that been identified as bin Laden, East? Early reports were
it was one of the others, I thought.
#Post#: 5313--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Eastcoastfan Date: May 3, 2011, 6:32 am
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This is where I read that, Curt:
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's chief counterterrorism
adviser John Brennan said Monday that U.S. military operatives
were prepared to capture Osama bin Laden alive but were
"absolutely" ready to kill him when he fought back.
"If we had the opportunity to take him alive, we would have done
that," Brennan said during an uncharacteristically candid
exchange with reporters at a White House briefing.
Intelligence officials and Obama “extensively” discussed the
prospect of capturing bin Laden alive during the U.S. military
raid on his compound Sunday, Brennan said, but were “certainly
were planning for the possibility … that he would likely resist
arrest.” In the end, the al Qaeda leader fought back and was
“therefore killed in a fire fight,” Brennan said.
The bottom line, said Brennan, was that “we were not going to
put our people at risk.”
Brennan painted a dark scene of bin Laden's final moments. He
said the al Qaeda leader used one of his wives as a human shield
while he was being shot at. “From a visual perspective, here is
bin Laden ... living in this million dollar-plus compound ...
hiding behind women who were put in front of him as a shield. I
think it really just speaks to just how false his narrative has
been over the years," Brennan said. "Looking at what bin Laden
was doing hiding there while he’s putting other people out there
to carry out attacks again just speaks to, I think, the nature
of the individual he was."
Brennan declined to say whether bin Laden went down shooting,
but an AP report cites an official familiar with the military
operation indicating that bin Laden fired on U.S. forces.
#Post#: 5314--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 3, 2011, 6:41 am
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Thanks, East.
#Post#: 5316--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 3, 2011, 6:44 am
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bin Laden was shot to death when he had no weapon, and he had
not had a weapon before he was shot to death.
To Brennan, I have only one thing to say -- Don't p*ss down my
neck and tell me it's rainin'.
But, I can't resist one more comment about Brennan. He said,
<i>"Looking at what bin Laden was doing hiding there while he’s
putting other people out there to carry out attacks again just
speaks to, I think, the nature of the individual he was." </i>
Presidents in this country are Commanders in Chief of our armed
forces, meaning they are "putting other people out there to
carry out attacks," and when they do so they are not exactly out
on the front line, but instead in very secure locations, with
lots of other people around them to keep them safe, people who
are even quite literally willing to give their lives to save the
President.
Brennan's comment would be equally applicable to virtually any
leader of military troops during modern warfare, and it
certainly would be applicable of the last three presidents, none
of whom saw combat and two of whom took deliberate steps to
reduce the chance they ever would.
I am not trying to glamorize bin Laden in any way -- the guy was
human trash. But the specific manner in which Brennan was
trying to belittle bin Laden was equally applicable to Brennan's
boss, and to Brennan himself, watching what was going on from
the security of the White House situation room.
#Post#: 5317--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Eastcoastfan Date: May 3, 2011, 6:57 am
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Yeah, I am so sick of US presidents urging Americans to martyr
themselves.
By the way, Curt, sounds like the story I read has been
superseded:
HTML http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html
#Post#: 5320--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: BearHit Date: May 3, 2011, 7:53 am
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We'll never know what really happened
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