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#Post#: 5151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 2, 2011, 12:15 pm
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[quote author=JR link=topic=11.msg5125#msg5125 date=1304350836]
Still, is making something like this an outright kill mission
the ethical/moral thing to do? It honestly may have been given
what would have happened if he was captured alive.
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The effort should have been capture. The outcome may have been
exactly the same, and I will not shed a tear for him either way,
but I do shed a tear for the Constitution, for the 5th Amendment
seems to have suffered a bit here. Order a capture, and if he
resists and is killed in the process of taking him prisoner,
fine. But he was "shot in the head," and I wonder from what
range. Of course, by disposing of him at sea, it is assured no
one will ever know.
#Post#: 5155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: BearHit Date: May 2, 2011, 12:32 pm
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If you are #1 on the FBI's most wanted list of bad guys - Dead
or Alive is probably standard protocol
#Post#: 5158--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Cactus Date: May 2, 2011, 12:38 pm
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Donald Trump wants to see the death certificate.
#Post#: 5159--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 12:39 pm
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Blast it, Cactus, you beat me to it. LOL
#Post#: 5161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 2, 2011, 12:41 pm
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[quote author=BearHit link=topic=11.msg5155#msg5155
date=1304357523]
If you are #1 on the FBI's most wanted list of bad guys - Dead
or Alive is probably standard protocol
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Not only is it NOT standard protocol, the directions were not
"Dead or Alive." The directions were that they were to bring
him back dead. It made no difference whether he resisted, was
unarmed or was captured in his sleep. The orders were simply to
kill him, or at least that is how it is being reported, and also
what Obama and Holder both several months ago said would be the
US approach with bin Laden.
#Post#: 5171--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: BearHit Date: May 2, 2011, 1:13 pm
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Only a few members of Seal Team 6 know what the real order was
#Post#: 5181--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 2, 2011, 2:27 pm
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So?
If the commander of the unit knows the "real order" and directs
the team accordingly, that is all that is needed. I am not
faulting the Seal team at all, nor would I fault the commander
of the unit if he carried out his orders. The decision to make
it a "kill" operation instead of a "capture" operation was made
several steps above the commander of that unit.
#Post#: 5187--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: RedBirdFan Date: May 2, 2011, 3:22 pm
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The bait is so tantilizing but I will not bite!
#Post#: 5202--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Chris27 Date: May 2, 2011, 5:12 pm
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A bit of a breakdown on the DNA process that would've been used
for bin Laden.
HTML http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110502/us_ac/8407767_how_dna_testing_confirmed_osama_bin_ladens_death
With hundreds of relatives, you'd think they'd use the most
expansive test to be certain of identification. That kind of
testing takes weeks, however.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Chris27 Date: May 2, 2011, 5:20 pm
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There seem to be conflicting reports on whether the mission was
to kill bin Laden. Several outlets are claiming he was to be
arrested if possible. I knew I heard last night that he was
given the option of surrender before refusing.
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