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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 10:40 am
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Tom, evidently CNN has an agenda too. Check #6
HTML http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/7-questions-on-the-death-of-bin-laden/?hpt=T2
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: JR Date: May 2, 2011, 10:40 am
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Reuters is reporting that the mission was to kill and not to
capture bin Laden.
HTML http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-kill-idUSTRE7413H220110502
What does everyone think of that? I guess it makes it a whole
lot simpler for everyone to go ahead and take him out. It saves
all of the media hysteria of bringing him to this country alive,
and it solves complicated problems like whether to put him to
trial or where to put him. It probably is better that we just
move on with our lives after the euphoria of taking him out dies
down in a week or two instead of dealing with a year long or two
year long debate on what to do with him.
Still, it does seem maybe at least a little bothersome to me if
we did have no intention of apprehending him alive. As evil as
bin Laden was, is it right to just kill him if we had just seen
him sitting around eating dinner, for example? Is vigilante
justice the way to handle something like this? Would there have
been some value in interrogating him? And honestly even with
the media hysterics and the awful political debate that would
follow bringing him in alive, there's part of me that would have
liked to have seen him subjected to all the pain and anger he
caused in this country before we fried him.
I'm sure these were just a few of the ethical/moral questions
that were debated before the decision was made to make it a kill
mission, and at least in the interests of the country, the right
decision was almost certainly made. Still, is making something
like this an outright kill mission the ethical/moral thing to
do? It honestly may have been given what would have happened if
he was captured alive. I think whatever debates there may have
been on the subject would have been at least interesting to
listen to.
#Post#: 5126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 10:43 am
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I was thinking that if we had captured him alive, we could have
still buried him at sea.
#Post#: 5127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: JR Date: May 2, 2011, 10:43 am
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[quote author=CurtOne link=topic=11.msg5126#msg5126
date=1304350981]
I was thinking that if we had captured him alive, we could have
still buried him at sea.
[/quote]
LOL!
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: BearHit Date: May 2, 2011, 10:56 am
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I'm sure he could have been rehabilitated into a nice
basket-weaving philanthropist...
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Keysbear Date: May 2, 2011, 11:10 am
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As to the questions presented by Curt and Tom's subsequent
assault on Curt another question did come to mind. Why would Tom
who admittedly avoids the politics thread suddenly have a desire
to see if someone would criticize Obama? I think he had an
agenda already and was hoping to find something to latch on to
and stir the pot.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: BearHit Date: May 2, 2011, 11:20 am
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Everyone has Assaulting Curt on their agenda...
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 11:49 am
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The irony is, I think Obama was very eloquent in his tv
appearance late last night. I think he did the right thing,
polls or no polls. My biggest concern is that some al qaeda
crackpot may try to do something to the head guy as vengeance
now. I'd rather have had Hillary or Panetta make the
announcement. But that's just me.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: CurtOne Date: May 2, 2011, 11:53 am
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[quote author=BearHit link=topic=11.msg5139#msg5139
date=1304353221]
Everyone has Assaulting Curt on their agenda...
[/quote]
Particularly Mrs. CurtOne.
#Post#: 5150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
By: Jes Beard Date: May 2, 2011, 12:09 pm
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[quote author=CurtOne link=topic=11.msg5089#msg5089
date=1304338090]
Is it significant that he was killed by American forces without
Pakistani help?
Is it significant that Pakistan with one of the most thorough
and feared intelligence networks in the world couldn't find a
guy hiding in a mansion?
Is it significant that we knew where he was since October but we
didn't order his demise until the President's rating was at an
all time low?
[/quote]
Yes, it is significant we did not involve the Pakistanis. It is
also significant that this was essentially a Presidentially
ordered murder. The orders were NOT to capture. They were to
kill.
I think it is a mistaken assumption to believe that the
Pakistanis could not (or DID not) know where bin Laden was. I
suspect many in the Pakistani intelligence community did know.
As to the timing of the operation..... Nah, Obama wouldn't do
anything like that. How could you even wonder such a thing?
One question I have about this is how they performed the
supposed DNA testing of bin Laden so quickly. To the best of my
knowledge, it is impossible to complete such testing in just a
few hours, which is all that was involved between the time we
killed him and the time we announced his death.
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