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#Post#: 9801--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: May 22, 2011, 10:28 am
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Pawlenty...paw-leeze. A dead turnip has more personality and
more chance to beat Obama.
Gingrich has baggage, but could be the better leader.
Right now, I think Cain would have a better shot than Pawlenty.
The two women are so polarizing they're nearly tri-polar.
Sanctorum is exactly that.
Hell, about now I'd take a third term of Clinton.
#Post#: 9805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: Robb
Date: May 22, 2011, 11:12 am
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Alan West would be awesome. He has a future
#Post#: 9829--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: FDISK
Date: May 22, 2011, 1:39 pm
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Gary Johnson...a Republican who would legalize pot...you don't
see that every day.
#Post#: 9975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: May 23, 2011, 8:00 am
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--- Quote from: davep link ---
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> Do we not collect samples of DNA for all convicted prisoners?
If not, why not. It is certainly not any more invasive than
taking their fingerprints.
>
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Many states collect it for those convicted of some certain (or
all) sex crimes, thought I believe the publicly reservations
about requiring it so far have been the costs associated with
storage of the samples. While those have been the PUBLICLY
stated reasons, I suspect the reasons which are more accurate
are:
1) General incompetence among lawmakers and executives who
determine what policy approaches will be adopted or considered;
2) A great many of those in law enforcement are reluctant to
create such records because they understand how often the
records can come back to bight the prosecution in the ass and
establish that someone already convicted (or convictable) could
use DNA evidence to establish innocence and get a conviction
reversed (or prevented in the first place).
#Post#: 9980--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: May 23, 2011, 8:17 am
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--- Quote from: brjones link ---
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> I also wonder if there will be any lawsuits brought against
Harold Camping, the guy who started the whole thing. I think
he's more a conman than someone who sincerely believes what he
says, and people gave him their entire life savings for this
thing.
--- End Quote ---
One of the beauties of the American legal system is that you can
sue anyone for anything.... including long dead folks for things
which happened before they were born. Of course, the fact that
you can sue them doesn't mean there is any chance of winning...
or of collecting on a judgement even if you do win. Hard to see
those wanting to sue Camping able to frame anything resembling a
winning lawsuit based on his predictions (knowingly fraudulent
or otherwise) about the end of the world.
--- Quote from: JR link ---
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> Looks like the Republican nominee is down to only Mitt Romney,
Tim Pawlenty, John Huntsman, or someone Obama would beat by 20
points.
>
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Romney's problem remains RomneyCare, and the fact that having
Romney running against Obama would effectively neuter the
Republican ticket on what should be one of the most effective
Republican issues -- ObamaCare. Pawlenty might well be able to
win, but is truly a dead fish. Huntsman has neither experience
nor name recognition nor a strong energized base nor any
apparent appeal to a significant constituency which might get
him some early traction.
Cain, Paul and Johnson all have certain appeals to the Tea Party
base, which could be enough to get the 2012 nomination, and each
would have some definite advantages in running against Obama
(though also each different advantages), and if the issues a
year and a half from now are the way they appear likely to be
could easily beat Obama.
--- Quote from: FDISK link ---
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> Gary Johnson...a Republican who would legalize pot...you don't
see that every day.
>
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Actually, probably at least 10% of those likely to vote
Republican in the general election not only would support that,
but would see that position as a major reason to support a
candidate. Johnson and Paul, the two with clear libertarian
views on the issue, are also not so much in favor of
legalization as they are in favor of getting the federal
government completely out of the picture and leaving the issue
to the states (many of which would either legalize or seriously
decriminalize if the feds were out of the picture on the
matter).
#Post#: 10006--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: davep
Date: May 23, 2011, 11:47 am
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That is a shame that we do not collect and save DNA samples of
anyone convicted of a felony. Has anyone seen a reliable
estimate of the cost that would be involved?
Although not a republican, I have voted for the republican
candidate in almost all national elections. And I am in favor
of the federal government getting out of the drug business for
not only ****, but also ****, ****, crack, and just about every
non-prescription drug.
For some reason, the words marihuana, cokaine and haroine were
censored. Maybe they preferred that they be misspelled.
#Post#: 10035--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: davep
Date: May 23, 2011, 2:11 pm
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Pawlenty announced his candidacy today in Iowa. And immediately
called for the phaseout of ethanol subsidies.
Anyone want to bet on his chances of winning the Iowa caucus?
#Post#: 10037--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: May 23, 2011, 2:16 pm
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If he does poorly in Iowa, that is not likely going to be the
cause.
Farmers fully understand that ethanol subsidies largely benefit
big agribusiness, and very little the smaller individual farmer
(in other words the folks who vote), and they also understand
that farmers in general would be much better off if government
got itself out of agriculture to a large degree. Many would be
wildly happy if government both ended all farm subsidies and
also imposed no controls on where and what they can export.
#Post#: 10069--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: davep
Date: May 23, 2011, 5:31 pm
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Sorry, Jes. Ethanol subsidies benefit farmers greatly. Ethanol
demand for corn has driven corn prices to more than 7 dollars
per bushel. Large farms can make money on corn at about 2.25
per bushel, while small family farms come out ahead at about
2.75.
Farmers that voted for someone that wants to eliminate ethanol
subsidies would be, as far as their own pocket book is
concerned, very foolish.
#Post#: 10071--------------------------------------------------
Re: Politics, Religion, etc. etc.
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: May 23, 2011, 5:36 pm
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--- Quote from: davep link ---
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> Sorry, Jes. Ethanol subsidies benefit farmers greatly. On a
dollar basis, hundreds of times more greatly.
>
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More greatly than what?
I am not arguing your basic point, because I may well be
completely wrong on just how the ethanol subsidies operate, but
"hundreds of times more greatly" than what?
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