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       #Post#: 135720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Ron Date: June 21, 2013, 10:19 am
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       On Olney's broadcast, Baseball Tonight researcher Justin Havens
       discussed Starlin Castro's tailspin this season.  He pointed out
       that Castro's swing and miss rate has gone way up, while his
       isolated power has gone way down.  Swing and miss in 2010 was
       under 16%, 18% last year and over 20% this year.  His isolated
       power was 1.47 last year, .091 this year, among the lowest in
       the league.
       In terms of specific pitches, he noted that while Castro had
       been very successful at hitting fastballs on the outer half of
       the plate in the past (.332 BA and .852 OPS from 2010-2012),
       this year, he has has been terrible with those pitches (.197 BA,
       .536 OPS).  In his words, "it's really mystifying how somebody
       this talented and this highly regarded entering this season
       could swing and miss so badly."
       Theo noted that Castro had not had the experience of a sustained
       period of failure that most young players have in the minors.
       Perhaps that is getting in his head, causing him to dig himself
       even deeper in the hole.
       It seems reasonable to expect that the drastic changes in these
       specific areas (where he had shown such a strength over three
       prior seasons) are an  aberration.  is it possible that the
       attempt to get him to be more selective has backfired?  In any
       event, I do think it's likely he will snap out of this at some
       point.
       #Post#: 135721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: brjones Date: June 21, 2013, 10:20 am
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       Not sure why they'd automatically trade Schierholtz.  They're
       not going to get a ton in a trade for him because he doesn't
       have much of a track record.  They're going to have to fill some
       outfield holes in the offseason.  And Schierholtz is under Cubs
       control next year since he has less than 6 years of service
       time--they'll be able to bring him back without breaking the
       bank.  And if they end up with more outfielders than they need
       in the offseason, it's not like he's going to be hard to move
       then.
       Basically, they can probably move him for a C prospect right now
       and open up a hole they have to fill in the offseason.  Or, they
       can hold onto him for now, re-evaluate whether or not they need
       him in the offseason, and still get the same quality prospect
       (or maybe even a better one if he sustains his performance in
       the second half).
       #Post#: 135723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Ron Date: June 21, 2013, 10:26 am
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       I assume that they are not determined to trade Schierholtz (or
       anyone else, except maybe Marmol and Soriano, if they could find
       deals).  The question is whether they can get adequately
       valuable "long term assets" for any of these "short term
       assets."  But Schierholtz (who only turns 30 next February)
       seems  to be a very good transitional player for the next two or
       three years until the Cubs' hot shot outfield prospects begin to
       arrive.  So I'd hope they would not trade him absent a very good
       return.
       #Post#: 135724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Deeg Date: June 21, 2013, 10:35 am
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       Schierholtz isn't someone I'd be desperate to move, as he's
       cheap and serviceable.  But he is a good "sell high" candidate,
       as it's likely his numbers will never be better than they are
       right now.  And the fact is, the Theocracy is probably getting a
       little itchy to make something happen and worried about getting
       burned by waiting too long to deal.  With DeJesus basically off
       the table, the Cubs have a limited number of guys with real
       value.  And the sum total of last year's fire sale is basically
       a guy coming off two elbow surgeries who may never pitch again,
       a 3B whose upside is a marginal big-league regular and a AA
       starter whose fastball wouldn't break the skin on a custard.  If
       there's a decent offer out there for Schierholtz I think Theo
       has no choice but to take it.
       #Post#: 135727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Playtwo Date: June 21, 2013, 11:17 am
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       Rusin has earned a call up if they deal Feldman.  Takahashi has
       also pitched very well in AAA.  Bogusevic and Lake could also be
       called up.  Although it won't happen, I would like to see
       Soriano given away since his occupation of a roster spot does
       nothing useful (not even increasing fan interest in the team
       anymore).
       #Post#: 135735--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: JR Date: June 21, 2013, 11:59 am
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       [quote]Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1m
       Have heard this from rival evaluators: The Cubs have started the
       process of exchanging names with other teams on some of their
       players.
       #Post#: 135737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: craig Date: June 21, 2013, 12:35 pm
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       [quote author=brjones link=topic=108.msg135721#msg135721
       date=1371828024]
       ...Schierholtz is under Cubs control next year since he has less
       than 6 years of service time--they'll be able to bring him back
       without breaking the bank.  ....Basically, they can probably
       move him for a C prospect right now and open up a hole they have
       to fill in the offseason.  Or, they can hold onto him for now,
       re-evaluate whether or not they need him in the offseason, and
       still get the same quality prospect (or maybe even a better one
       if he sustains his performance in the second half).
       [/quote]
       I don't think so.  In general and all else being equal, as club
       control dwindles, so too does trade value.  Right now Schierholz
       has 1.5 years of control; this winter it will be 1.0; next
       summer it will be 0.5 (or less).  The longer you wait, the lower
       goes the value.
       That's all else being equal, of course.  Perhaps 61 games of
       .883-OPS aren't as persuasive as a full year, so perhaps the
       scouting evaluations will be more firm later.  Or not.
       The other thing is supply and demand.  No free agents out there
       now; during the winter teams have lots of time and more possible
       ways to address a need, so the supply is greater in winter.  I
       don't know if anybody now does have an OF need that schierholz
       would help solve.  But there are no injury-based needs in
       winter.  If a guy is hurt in November, he's got 5 months to
       recover without missing a game; but if a guy gets injured during
       the summer, months of recovery costs the season, and the demand
       gets sharper.
       #Post#: 135740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Playtwo Date: June 21, 2013, 1:05 pm
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       We should see an uptick in performance of those players who feel
       they may be auditioning for a chance to be moved to a contender.
       #Post#: 135742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: craig Date: June 21, 2013, 1:22 pm
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       Why?  You don't think they're playing hard for Sveum?
       #Post#: 135744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '13
       By: Playtwo Date: June 21, 2013, 1:27 pm
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       Lets just say that opportunity tends to focus a player's effort.
       Particularly so for players on a team going nowhere.
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