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Re: Cubs in '13
By: brjones Date: June 20, 2013, 9:16 am
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From John Perrotto on Baseball Prospectus:
[quote]
Cubs general manager Jed Hoyer insists that his team will not
release reliever Carlos Marmol, regardless of how poorly the
former closer keeps performing. However, after Marmol blew
another save Sunday against the Mets while filling in for closer
Kevin Gregg, who was rested after pitching in four straight
games, his teammates had had enough. Even left fielder Alfonso
Soriano took a shot at Marmol while talking to the Chicago
Tribune after the 4-3 loss in which his close friend gave four
runs in the ninth inning.
“When Alfonso Soriano says something bad about someone, you
better sit up and take notice because you won’t find a better
teammate than Sori,” a Cubs insider said. “I think Jed and Theo
(Epstein) and ownership need to rethink their position. No one
in that clubhouse has one bit of confidence in Marmol anymore,
and his trade value is zero. Would you want him pitching for
your team in a pennant race? The Cubs need to release him, eat
the money, and realize that sometimes there is addition by
subtraction.”
Marmol is making $9.8 million this season in the final season of
a three-year, $20-million contract. The Cubs would be on the
hook for a little over $5.25 million if they were to release him
now.
[/quote]
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: JR Date: June 20, 2013, 9:27 am
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[quote author=Cactus link=topic=108.msg135553#msg135553
date=1371736412]
Why Starlin Castro didn't appreciate Shane Robinson's slide
HTML http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj631/acecubbie/robinsoncastroslidecleatsup_zps13f04d1a.png
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I have to admit, I think Sveum and the Cubs should have had
Castro's back more than they did.
As far as Sveum saying he wishes his players would play that
way, well . . . .
1. His players don't play that way, so if nothing else, we have
another example of him not really effecting much change in how
the Cubs play.
2. I'm not sure how much I want to see Cub players going 3 feet
outside the bag with their cleats up like that anyway.
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: davep Date: June 20, 2013, 9:41 am
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I have that game on tivo, and have watched the play in slow
motion several times since I saw the picture above.
That picture is a great example of how misleading a picture can
be. Just looking at the still above, it appears that the runner
came into Castro with his spikes high enough to do substantial
damage. But looking at the entire play, the runner (who was
clearly out of the baseline, but that is a different issue) came
at Castro with his leg out in an attempt to trip him, with his
toe extended outwards. The top of his tow slipped under
Castro's legs as he jumped, and after passing Castro, he turned
his foot around so the spikes were extending outwards.
The above picture is taken AFTER his foot had passed under
Castro's legs, and could not have possibly have spiked him. It
was NOT a deliberate (or even accidental) attempt to spike the
shortstop. His cleats were NOT up as he made contact with
Castro (and he DID make contact with Castro).
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: Playtwo Date: June 20, 2013, 9:51 am
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I don't consider that a dirty play. Just a desperate effort to
avoid a game ending DP.
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: JR Date: June 20, 2013, 11:20 am
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Kind of interesting take on the slide from Dave McKay. Like
everyone else with the Cubs, he didn't have a problem with it,
and he talked about trying to instill that mentality with the
Cubs.
He even brought up the infamous Matt Holliday slide from a
couple of years ago.
[quote]McKay has used Matt Holliday as an example while teaching
the Cubs. Holliday made a game-changing play here in July 2011,
taking out Castro with a hard slide on a potential double-play
ball. The Cardinals didn’t clinch a playoff spot until the final
day of the regular season, making a surprise run to a World
Series title.
“I think I created a monster in Holliday,” McKay said. “That’s
what I like the players to do: At the end of the season, I want
you to think back to the three or four games that we won because
of you. I want you to be able to say: ‘Because I did this, we
won this game.’
“And then when you win on the last day of the season and go on
and win a world championship, you feel pretty good about
yourself."[/quote]
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: JR Date: June 20, 2013, 11:23 am
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Starlin wasn't a big fan of that Holliday slide back in 2011
either.
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: Jes Beard Date: June 20, 2013, 12:49 pm
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Whether it is a "dirty" play or not is entirely subjective. It
clearly violates the rules, and almost certainly increases the
odds the defender is injured.
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: Clarkaddison Date: June 20, 2013, 1:55 pm
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Castro was making the neighborhood play on the pivot. His foot
never touched the bag.
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: jacey1 Date: June 20, 2013, 1:59 pm
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it didn't appear to be a dirty play to me when it happened..yes,
he was clearly out of the basepath and the ump made the correct
call...the guy was desparately trying to break up a dbl play and
got caught going outside the basepath. suck it up castro
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Re: Cubs in '13
By: Ron Date: June 21, 2013, 9:49 am
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Buster Olney seems to think that Nate Shierholtz, Kevin Gregg
and Scott Feldman (and maybe Matt Garza) are the most likely
Cubs to be traded. And he says the Cubs have let it be known
that they are ready to make deals right now.
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