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&quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: TeamBhakta Date: February 18, 2019, 12:24 am
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The author of this Curbed piece had a MIL (boyfriend�s mother)
living in a colorful row of homes popular with bloggers on
Instagram. The MIL was resting after chemo one day & was
disturbed by a noisy travel blogger doing a photo shoot outside.
The MIL gave the travel blogger a look to knock it off. The
blogger posted on Instagram that the home owner should open a
"mimosa stand" for tourists; she has since removed the original
caption & is hanging her hat on (paraphrasing) "My own parents
both died of cancer." How do those of you living in photogenic /
historic areas handle tourists who show up photographing your
home ?
HTML https://www.curbed.com/2019/2/6/18212179/instagram-famous-home-exteriors-architecture-travel-influencer-rules-homeownership
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Aleko Date: February 18, 2019, 6:33 am
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I think it's a pity that the author felt obliged to lay so much
stress on the home-owner's distinguished career and family, her
lovableness and her sufferings. If she had been a grumpy total
nobody in robust health, she still would have been entitled to
not be disturbed in her own home by someone shouting as they
cavorted around taking tourist photos of it; and the only decent
response to a householder coming to the door would be 'Oh, I'm
sorry, did I disturb you? I didn't realise we were making that
much noise; I do apologise! We were carried away by seeing your
lovely house, but we'll go away now and stop bothering you.
Sorry again!'
(This is not only the only decent response; it's the smart one.
A soft answer not only turneth away wrath; just occasionally it
can beguile the owner into letting you carry on, and even maybe
into letting you see a bit more of it. ;D)
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: DCGirl Date: February 18, 2019, 7:25 am
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I do think it's all about the pictures these days, no matter
what. I jokingly refer to my niece's wedding as the Instagram
wedding. The site, a picturesque B&B on a farm, was chosen for
the photo opportunities and not for the convenience of anyone,
including the bride and groom. When I saw the online photo
album, there are (seriously) 20 times more pictures of the B&B
owners' cute alpaca romping in the pasture than there are of me
and my husband (we're in one group shot, period, and no
candids). As a result, people lose site of the real purpose of
places and events -- that that picturesque house is someone's
home and that one of the most important parts of a wedding is to
celebrate with family and friends and not the local livestock.
I know I posted about this on the old board, but my grandparents
are buried at Arlington National Cemetery, within site of the
grave of John F. Kennedy, which is a major tourist destination.
My grandfather was there 11 years before JFK. When we had my
grandmother's funeral at the grave site, with a Navy chaplain
and a young sailor carrying the urn with her ashes, we could
hear the clicking of cameras as a tour group took pictures.
This was long before cell phones and social media. I was
furious. Did they think we were costumed re-enactors, like in
Colonial Williamsburg, who were there for their entertainment?
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Contrarian Date: February 19, 2019, 11:28 am
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I�m not in the US, so I will most likely be misunderstanding
laws.
There are prices to be paid in order to live in a free society.
Some more annoying than others. People are free to take
pictures in public of your self and your property.
Sometimes you can see it coming, like the people who bought and
live in the house of �Amityville Horror�.
I know the question is not if such things should be legal or
not, but how to handle it when you�re in that situation but I
just wanted to first state, as long as it is legal, it will keep
happening.
With a home, many people install plaques saying something like
�we do not give tours, don�t knock at the door�, or they install
some sort of gated system where one can�t even get to the door
without being buzzed in. But if you don�t and or are unable to
do such things, you must be prepared to accept that you live in
a highly photographed structure and you should probably make a
comfortable, private space away from the main line of
photography.
I never sat in the living room of my old home, with the curtains
open. I love sunlight, but the window was about eight feet from
a busyish street and I didn�t like people looking in, or knowing
I was home. It wasn�t a tourist attraction but that�s how I am.
My comfy armchairs were in my kitchen, at the back of the house,
where there were sliding doors and I�d sit there when I wanted
to enjoy sunlight and a cup of tea.
No room for a kitchen table unfortunately, but I had a little
round bistro table. Anyway, point being, you should be able to
sit in your front room with the window open, but clearly one
can�t without being disturbed.
I don�t think there is any answer to deal with the curious, the
photocrazy, and the privacy vultures, that will end this. If
they see you, they will call to you, we won�t be able to change
them.
I really think the only solution is to build a comfy private
place elsewhere in the home.
As for the Arlington cemetery, I completely understand the
frustration and, (did I misread?) pain. But society has
demonstrably been insensitive of privacy since the beginning of
cameras. I�m sure long before camera�s.
I can�t even imagine what these people were doing taking
pictures at your loved ones service, but they are vultures and
cannot be stopped.
I think what I�m saying is this can�t really be dealt with,
besides hiring security or hiding.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Sycorax Date: February 19, 2019, 12:36 pm
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I think the problem in this situation was that they weren't just
taking photographs, they were spending an extended period of
time shouting loudly about the photographs they were taking. I
don't know if there are any laws about this, but I think it's
pretty rude to just be loud in a residential area. I doubt that
this Instagrammer would be that excited to have someone randomly
shouting in front of *their* residence.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Hmmm Date: February 19, 2019, 12:55 pm
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[quote author=Contrarian link=topic=999.msg26346#msg26346
date=1550597287]
I�m not in the US, so I will most likely be misunderstanding
laws.
There are prices to be paid in order to live in a free society.
Some more annoying than others. People are free to take
pictures in public of your self and your property.
Sometimes you can see it coming, like the people who bought and
live in the house of �Amityville Horror�.
I know the question is not if such things should be legal or
not, but how to handle it when you�re in that situation but I
just wanted to first state, as long as it is legal, it will keep
happening.
With a home, many people install plaques saying something like
�we do not give tours, don�t knock at the door�, or they install
some sort of gated system where one can�t even get to the door
without being buzzed in. But if you don�t and or are unable to
do such things, you must be prepared to accept that you live in
a highly photographed structure and you should probably make a
comfortable, private space away from the main line of
photography.
I never sat in the living room of my old home, with the curtains
open. I love sunlight, but the window was about eight feet from
a busyish street and I didn�t like people looking in, or knowing
I was home. It wasn�t a tourist attraction but that�s how I am.
My comfy armchairs were in my kitchen, at the back of the house,
where there were sliding doors and I�d sit there when I wanted
to enjoy sunlight and a cup of tea.
No room for a kitchen table unfortunately, but I had a little
round bistro table. Anyway, point being, you should be able to
sit in your front room with the window open, but clearly one
can�t without being disturbed.
I don�t think there is any answer to deal with the curious, the
photocrazy, and the privacy vultures, that will end this. If
they see you, they will call to you, we won�t be able to change
them.
I really think the only solution is to build a comfy private
place elsewhere in the home.
As for the Arlington cemetery, I completely understand the
frustration and, (did I misread?) pain. But society has
demonstrably been insensitive of privacy since the beginning of
cameras. I�m sure long before camera�s.
I can�t even imagine what these people were doing taking
pictures at your loved ones service, but they are vultures and
cannot be stopped.
I think what I�m saying is this can�t really be dealt with,
besides hiring security or hiding.
[/quote]
For me, legality and politeness are two separate things. It may
be legal to stand on the sidewalk and take photos and yelling
directions at someone across the street. But is it a polite
thing to do? I refuse to "give in" to the notion that we just
have to learn to live with people becoming less polite and
respectful of others. Unless people are willing to challenge the
behavior it will continue.
For instance, had this been a friend relating a story about the
"old curmudgeon" glaring out the window, I would have asked how
long had they been out there and how loud were they being to
cause the confrontation.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Twik Date: February 19, 2019, 2:03 pm
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I don't think you can control the behaviour of people on the
sidewalk, unless they're doing something truly atrocious like
using zoom lenses to capture the d�cor in your home. Its
unfortunate if the house was built so that people on the
sidewalk are an arm's length from being in your front hallway,
but that's on the architect.
It's certainly legal, but not polite, to cavort in front of
people's homes in a way that would bring attention to yourself.
I doubt that someone merely standing on the sidewalk and having
their picture taken would cause much uproar, but if people are
treating it like a fashion photoshoot I can see how it's
annoying and distracting.
It wasn't quite clear in the article about the original picture,
but the writer mentions other situations where the public has
actually ventured onto private property. That's not just rude,
it's illegal, and I'd shed no tears if these people were
arrested.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: DCGirl Date: February 19, 2019, 2:03 pm
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If you read the article, the woman who's home it was was
involved in the preservation of historic buildings in Savannah
and probably more aware than most people that her home was
something of a tourist attraction. To me, the issue is not so
much that someone was taking pictures of the home but that she
was yelling to her photographer across the street (likely, very
loud) and that she chose to be incredibly snotty in her original
Instagram post about the owner of the home. You can't stop
someone from taking a picture of the front of your house, but
the article that was linked also talks about how people go up
onto the porches of those homes to get better pictures, which is
clearly trespassing. I think the distinction between legality
and politeness in the previous response.
I've lived in a major tourist destination. I attended the
College of William & Mary, which is in Williamsburg, VA, and the
first floor of one of its buildings, the Wren Building, is part
of Colonial Williamsburg (the Wren Building is the oldest
academic building in continuous use in the United States).
Classes are still offered in upper floors. When I was there the
classrooms were used by the English department, so I had several
classes there in my four years. I believe it's used by the
Philosophy department now, but don't hold me to it. Some
students actually register for specific classes just to be able
to say they took one class in the Wren Building during their
four years there. Anyway, it was not at all unusual to have
tourists come up the stairs and occasionally try to take
pictures of the rare denim-wearing sophomore in its native
habitat, as it were. My Old English professor had a death glare
that would scare the daylights out of them if they walked into
his classroom.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Rose Red Date: February 19, 2019, 3:23 pm
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This reminds me of a program I once saw about owners of houses
designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. They are forbidden to hang
window treatments and they often have tourists/tours peering
into their homes and taking pictures. But they knew what they
were getting into before agreeing to buy the house(s). I could
not live that way. No way, no how, no matter how beautiful the
house. I don't want strangers watching me eat breakfast!
For those who don't have such agreements, I'd set up motion
sprinklers or something.
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Re: &quot;Be grateful I'm photographing your home&quot;
By: Chez Miriam Date: February 20, 2019, 4:36 am
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=999.msg26383#msg26383
date=1550611387]
This reminds me of a program I once saw about owners of houses
designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. They are forbidden to hang
window treatments and they often have tourists/tours peering
into their homes and taking pictures. But they knew what they
were getting into before agreeing to buy the house(s). I could
not live that way. No way, no how, no matter how beautiful the
house. I don't want strangers watching me eat breakfast!
For those who don't have such agreements, I'd set up motion
sprinklers or something.
[/quote]
That makes me wonder whether the film you can apply to windows
that essentially turns them into a one-way mirror would be
allowed?
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