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       #Post#: 1525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Luci Date: May 17, 2018, 3:18 pm
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       I would stay clear of them both socially. I am more concerned
       about the equipment. I would check out the laws of its being in
       your possession for so long and make the required moves to get
       it out of there by Bob's getting it back or selling it. It may
       involve  notices and time frame, but not a lawyer.
       It’s always sad when a formerly satisfying relationship dies.
       #Post#: 1797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: dani321 Date: May 18, 2018, 11:10 am
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       I agree with everyone else, and also strongly suspect Sue is the
       one who "unfriended" you both from Bob's account. If your DH had
       just commented on Bob's post, and also spoken with him, that
       probably alerted Sue to the fact that he's still Facebook
       friends with you both, and it seems pretty likely she put an end
       to it, whether she did it herself or asked/demanded that Bob do
       it.
       I also think it's odd that Bob needed to "think about" getting
       together and/or getting his equipment. That's a yes or a no
       question, the only variable is choosing a time to meet up. He
       shouldn't really need to think about whether he wants to hang
       out with an old friend or pick up his belongings from your home.
       I definitely don't believe your husband owes Bob anything other
       than a sincere attempt to return his equipment.
       Also, OP, I'm sorry about your friend, you were well within your
       rights to express your opinion to her especially given that you
       were tangentially involved. And also I love your username  ;D
       #Post#: 1812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: imc Date: May 18, 2018, 11:53 am
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       I agree with one of the first suggestions.
       Since DH has no interest in setting up another band with Bob and
       Sue, he should express that to Bob but also tell him he misses
       him as a friend and try to set up an outing between the two of
       them. Coffee, beer, or whatever non-band related activity they
       used to do to chill out together in the past. Give him one
       chance or two to either agree to the proposed outing or at least
       be proactive in declining (“Tuesday I really can’t, but what
       about Thursday?”).
       If Bob seems receptive, I guess DH should give that relationship
       one last chance, since he seems to really care about Bob,
       despite Bob’s poor treatment of him. This endevour’s success
       probably depends heavily on the men reconnecting without Sue’s
       interference, so you probably should also be giving them time to
       do this on their own. If it works, you can then move onto
       rekindling you women’s participation in their friendship, if
       feasible.
       If not, this might just be one friendship that DH and Bob will
       have to nurture exclusively, if they care enough to.
       If Bob fails to positively respond to DH’s friendly overtures,
       prepare to cut your losses and take all necessary legal steps to
       get rid of Bob’s stuff crowding your basement.
       #Post#: 2182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: May 19, 2018, 12:57 pm
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       To me it sounds as if Sue is the impetus behind the unfriending,
       but I also think it doesn't matter.  However Bob feels, he's
       going with Sue's flow.
       The more I think about the whole mess, the more it sounds as if
       Bob wants everything to go back to the big happy group of
       friends, but right now Sue has the reins.  So, if Bob delays
       getting the equipment, then he always has an "in" to rekindle
       the old friendship. That's why he "has to think about it."
       So my response would be: No, Bob.  Get your stuff.
       It wouldn't hurt to double check with a lawyer as to what your
       rights are if Bob refuses or fails to follow through.  But if I
       were you, I would want to create a clean break.  If Bob and/or
       Sue decide to extend an apology or olive branch, all well and
       good.  But I wouldn't want to be kept dangling.
       #Post#: 2381--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Octavia Date: May 19, 2018, 9:43 pm
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       Bob doesn't seems like a great friend, and he seems fine using
       your basement as his storage space. But what is your potential
       liability for storing his gear? What if your basement floods, or
       your home gets burglarized and the equipment stolen? Any
       friendship that your DH has left with Bob would probably be
       ruined, and you could be legally on the hook for $$$.
       So I agree with others for DH to make one final attempt to meet
       with Bob ASAP, evaluate the friendship and establish a firm date
       for Bob to remove his gear from your basement. If Bob isn't up
       for it, I can share what I did with an ex who refused to collect
       furniture and other belongings from my house. My jurisdiction
       requires at least a 30-day notification prior to disposing
       someone's property. So I sent ex a registered letter warning him
       that I was moving his belongings to a storage unit for which I'd
       pay one month of rent. He therefore had 30 days to pick up his
       stuff from the unit, or it would be confiscated by the storage
       unit owner. In either case, it was out of my house & no longer
       my problem. Hope you won't have to escalate to this action
       though. Good luck, and let us know how things work out!
       #Post#: 2450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Elle Kruger Date: May 20, 2018, 8:12 am
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       I don’t think Bob has been a good friend, and your DH is
       probably better off letting the idea of friendship go.
       Regardless, the equipment in your basement needs to be picked
       up. You’re not a storage facility and you don’t want to be
       liable if something were to happen. Sue sounds like the type of
       person who would love to cause trouble, so I’d sever any ties
       between you/DH and her/Bob just to be safe.
       #Post#: 2484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Winterlight Date: May 20, 2018, 10:43 am
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       I agree with everyone who says you should get the equipment out
       somehow. Your DH can try to reach out again, but I wouldn't. It
       doesn't sound like Bob has missed him at all, and being friends
       with Bob means potential interaction with Sue.
       #Post#: 2503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Dr. F. Date: May 20, 2018, 11:34 am
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       [quote author=Octavia link=topic=98.msg2381#msg2381
       date=1526784223]
       BIf Bob isn't up for it, I can share what I did with an ex who
       refused to collect furniture and other belongings from my house.
       My jurisdiction requires at least a 30-day notification prior to
       disposing someone's property. So I sent ex a registered letter
       warning him that I was moving his belongings to a storage unit
       for which I'd pay one month of rent. He therefore had 30 days to
       pick up his stuff from the unit, or it would be confiscated by
       the storage unit owner. In either case, it was out of my house &
       no longer my problem. Hope you won't have to escalate to this
       action though. Good luck, and let us know how things work out!
       [/quote]
       Out of curiosity, did it work? Did ex collect his stuff? I ask
       because I was in a similar situation once, and it didn't end
       well.
       #Post#: 2649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Defriending On-Line, Pretending to Friend IRL
       By: Octavia Date: May 20, 2018, 7:11 pm
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       [quote author=Dr. F. link=topic=98.msg2503#msg2503
       date=1526834047]
       [quote author=Octavia link=topic=98.msg2381#msg2381
       date=1526784223]
       BIf Bob isn't up for it, I can share what I did with an ex who
       refused to collect furniture and other belongings from my house.
       My jurisdiction requires at least a 30-day notification prior to
       disposing someone's property. So I sent ex a registered letter
       warning him that I was moving his belongings to a storage unit
       for which I'd pay one month of rent. He therefore had 30 days to
       pick up his stuff from the unit, or it would be confiscated by
       the storage unit owner. In either case, it was out of my house &
       no longer my problem. Hope you won't have to escalate to this
       action though. Good luck, and let us know how things work out!
       [/quote]
       Out of curiosity, did it work? Did ex collect his stuff? I ask
       because I was in a similar situation once, and it didn't end
       well.
       [/quote]
       It did work! I should have mentioned that I had listed my house
       for sale and needed it decluttered for showings. So I used that
       as an excuse to get his belongings out. I had included an
       inventory of his belongings in the letter and photographed them
       once in the storage unit to account for them and their
       condition. He wasn't happy with me but understood and was glad I
       didn't just throw his property out like his previous exes had
       (see a pattern there?). He ended up renewing the storage unit
       rental agreement on his own until figuring out what to do with
       his things. I don't remember how long as I moved after selling
       my house and accidentally on purpose lost touch with him. What
       went wrong in your situation?
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