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       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: NewHomeowner Date: November 19, 2019, 6:50 am
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       This is the first time I've ever seen this.  EVER.
       (I'm 60 years old and have been baking since I was young).
       The other day I got out my flour because I needed it to dust the
       board where I was about to put the biscuit mix that I'd just
       made up.
       I opened the flour bin, and it was *crawling*.  Thousands of
       little tiny brown *things* were crawling around in my flour!!
       NEVER saw that before.  The bin was sealed. The flour brand was
       a national brand that I've used All My Life!
       I've seen bugs in lentils before, but I bought them in a little
       middle eastern store.  This flour was bought at my local grocery
       store, again, a national chain.  Shocked is a vast
       understatement of what I felt.
       It's been awhile since I bought that flour and the bag it was in
       was long gone, so contacting the manufacturer would have been
       useless.  I just threw it out (down the drain!) and eventually
       bought more flour.  A different brand.
       *shudder*
       #Post#: 42289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: gramma dishes Date: November 19, 2019, 8:45 am
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       ^^^   I had the exact same thing happen a few years ago.  The
       name brand of the flour was Ceresota.
       I opened my flour container and I saw a tiny black thing.   It
       looked like a grain of pepper mill grind black pepper.  I
       scooped it out and pitched it and went ahead with whatever I was
       doing.
       A couple of weeks later I opened it again and there were several
       little black things!  I went digging and realized most were near
       the top, but I didn't know what they were -- just that they kept
       apparently multiplying.
       Like you I just pitched the whole thing and started over.
       #Post#: 42314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: Dazi Date: November 19, 2019, 1:15 pm
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       ^^^Those are called flour weevils. They are quite common in
       flour and cereals. It probably depends on where you live, but in
       the Southern United States, they are not uncommon and it is
       recommended that you keep your flour in the freezer and your
       cereals in an airtight container to avoid contamination.
       #Post#: 42350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: gmatoy Date: November 19, 2019, 9:22 pm
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       [quote author=Dazi link=topic=957.msg42314#msg42314
       date=1574190949]
       ^^^Those are called flour weevils. They are quite common in
       flour and cereals. It probably depends on where you live, but in
       the Southern United States, they are not uncommon and it is
       recommended that you keep your flour in the freezer and your
       cereals in an airtight container to avoid contamination.
       [/quote]
       I have a friend who has a sister living in Southern U.S. She
       says it is pretty common to have an extra freezer or
       refrigerator to keep flour, cornmeal, pancake mix, cereals,
       etc.. Evidently back porches are good for holding the extra
       refrigerator.  ;D
       As for the chocolate comments, Costco sold a brand of chocolate
       chips that I loved: Ambrosia. Then our Costco didn't have it
       anymore. I was so sad! Then my DH went to the one that is for
       businesses and they had it! I'm sure that I acted like a fool, I
       was so happy. DH commented that you would have thought that he
       brought home food to feed a starving village!
       I thought about it and then made a donation program that feeds
       the hungry, just so I didn't have to feel guilty!
       #Post#: 43068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: Twik Date: December 3, 2019, 9:40 am
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       My mom used to scatter bay leaves on the shelves where she kept
       bagged staples like flour. Said it repelled the weevils, and I
       must admit I never saw any in all my years growing up.
       Did find some in my boxed rice once. Keep my rice in plastic
       containers now.
       #Post#: 43074--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: Hmmm Date: December 3, 2019, 9:59 am
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       Yeah, flour weevils are pretty common. I've gotten them in flour
       or other grains and rice a few times. It doesn't really seem to
       matter where you bought the product from. According to most
       sources the eggs are introduced in the processing plant or
       warehouse.  Some interesting information I found was to put
       flours, grains and rice in the freezer for a minimum of 4 days
       and that will kill any of the eggs and keep them from hatching.
       The same source also recommended putting a bay leaf in
       containers with rice or grains.
       Back about 25 years ago, I'd bought a large can of a popular
       cajun seasoning  and after a week, found the bugs and threw it
       out. I bought another can a few weeks later and the same
       happened. I contacted the company and they sent me a coupon and
       a huge gift box of their other items.
       #Post#: 45569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: NewHomeowner Date: January 15, 2020, 5:46 am
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       [quote author=Dazi link=topic=957.msg42314#msg42314
       date=1574190949]
       ^^^Those are called flour weevils. They are quite common in
       flour and cereals. It probably depends on where you live, but in
       the Southern United States, they are not uncommon and it is
       recommended that you keep your flour in the freezer and your
       cereals in an airtight container to avoid contamination.
       [/quote]
       When I knew I was moving down South, I collected a whole bunch
       of gallon-sized glass jars (I worked for Subway at the time, and
       they used a lot of them).   I knew about the bugs down here and
       knew that I'd have to keep everything sealed.  And I do.  So
       imagine my surprise when these bugs showed up anyway!
       I don't have room to put a big freezer, and the little freezer I
       have is packed with frozen foods.
       #Post#: 45591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When Baking Ingredient Go Bad
       By: VorFemme Date: January 15, 2020, 12:20 pm
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       I remember seeing something about a lady & her family who bought
       grain in bulk to grind their own flour and as feed for the
       animals on their subsistence farm.   The grain was stored in
       large (five gallon? larger?) buckets, filled almost full - then
       a chunk of dry ice was put into it and the lid was put on
       "loosely" until the dry ice had filled the bucket & forced the
       air out (with practice, they knew what size of lump to use and
       how long it too to have it turn back to carbon dioxide gas
       inside the bucket).  Then they sealed the lid on the grain &
       carbon dioxide and it would not have any weevils or other pests
       in there until it was opened days, weeks, or months later..but I
       have no idea how long it lasted or if it would be safe to do
       that with a glass jar...as sealing it too early &
       over-pressurizing glass would result in a broken or cracked
       storage jar.
       My aunt would freeze ground beef in flattened zip locked freezer
       bags - it froze fast and thawed quickly, too, and it stacked
       more or less neatly in their smaller freezer.
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