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Recruiters
By: Hanna Date: January 16, 2019, 12:06 pm
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People in my field get calls and emails from recruiters
regularly on work and personal lines and emails. I ignore
almost all unsolicited calls and emails. If they sneak through
I am always polite and fairly friendly, and occasionally I will
talk to them beyond saying "Not available." The one exception
was when a guy who was actively recruiting to fill a position
for me, also separately called me to try to lure me to a
different company. (Does everyone agree that's unethical?)
This past week one recruiter has called and emailed me every
single day. It really is starting to feel like harassment. I
don't actually want to block the whole recruiting firm, in the
event that one day I need their help. But Sheesh! One email
mentioned that she would not email me again. Then I got another
email and phone call today.
How would you handle?
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Re: Recruiters
By: Isisnin Date: January 16, 2019, 4:44 pm
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You don't need to worry about them not recruiting staff for you
if you are more firm with them. They will not loose an
opportunity to make money, so they will recruit for you. The
trick is to remind them that they need to keep you happy to keep
you as a customer:
"I've asked you before to not contact me to recruit me to
another job. I am happy here. Please do not try to recruit me
again. You were very effective in recruiting staff for me. I
will contact you should I need more staff. Thank you. Good bye."
(or, if you haven't used them before "If I need you to recruit
for staff for me, I will contact you" )
If they keep contacting after being that clear, keep giving them
a stock response "I told you no. Good bye." They'll stop.
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Re: Recruiters
By: mime Date: January 16, 2019, 8:51 pm
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I've actually said to a couple of recruiters that I wasn't
looking for anything, but if they want to check in with me in
six months or so, they could. I didn't expect to need them then,
either, but it seemed to satisfy some desire for a plan for
future contact, so they left me alone until then.
My awesome recruiter story:
I work at company XYZ which is very hard to get into unless you
start your career there. It is where I wanted to be. Before I
was at XYZ, a recruiter called me for a different company
altogether and I told him that I wasn't interested, but if he
ever had anything for XYZ then I'd be interested. He went and
set some wheels in motion, and five weeks later I was working at
XYZ. That guy really earned his fee as far as I'm concerned!
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Re: Recruiters
By: DCGirl Date: January 17, 2019, 7:54 am
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I think that some recruiters just crank through list after list
of candidates (it's a numbers game, after all), and you may be
on more than one list, meaning you get more than one call. I
think Isisnin's language is good. If you want to inject a
little humor, you might say, "I told you yesterday that I wasn't
interested, and nothing happened overnight to change my mind.
Now, goodbye."
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Re: Recruiters
By: Hanna Date: January 17, 2019, 8:19 am
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[quote author=Isisnin link=topic=947.msg24160#msg24160
date=1547678651]
You don't need to worry about them not recruiting staff for you
if you are more firm with them. They will not loose an
opportunity to make money, so they will recruit for you. The
trick is to remind them that they need to keep you happy to keep
you as a customer:
[/quote]
Oh, I’m not worried about that! The problem is that they should
not being actively trying to recruit people away from our team
when they are contract to help build it. It’s sneaky and crappy.
Recruiters that do this are using info they gain from their
customers against the customer.
We told him if he kept doing it we’d stop doing business with
them.
Recruiters can be so cut-throat. I once had a guy pretend to be
hitting on me ask for my phone number, only because he wanted it
for recruiting purposes.
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Re: Recruiters
By: Hanna Date: January 17, 2019, 8:21 am
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With this particular recruiter I replied via email yesterday
with outlandish salary and title requirements. Told her it had
to be within 20 miles of my house and a bunch of other things
for me to consider. I won’t hear back now.
Do you feel rude when you ignore people that contact you?
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Re: Recruiters
By: Sweet Jane Date: January 17, 2019, 9:56 am
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[quote author=Hanna link=topic=947.msg24195#msg24195
date=1547734915]
With this particular recruiter I replied via email yesterday
with outlandish salary and title requirements. Told her it had
to be within 20 miles of my house and a bunch of other things
for me to consider. I won’t hear back now.
[/quote]
I wouldn't count on that. I had a recruiter who contacted me
over and over again for the same job, which seemed to get
reposted every couple of months. I told her that I had specific
requirements (salary, no long hours, and nothing outside a small
geographical area). All of these requirements excluded that
particular job, but it didn't stop her from contacting me about
that same job.
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Re: Recruiters
By: DaDancingPsych Date: January 17, 2019, 11:50 am
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As a recruiter, we have contracts with most of our clients that
state that I cannot poach their employees or consultants for
another client. Even without a contract stating as such, I agree
that it does not show much loyalty to the partnership that we
have built with you as the client. I would probably be less than
impressed with any recruiter who does that.
I typically send individuals emails with any job openings that I
think may interest them. If I do not hear back I *may* follow-up
with a phone call in a few days, but that would have to be
someone who I think is an amazing fit. Otherwise, I take the
silence as "not interested". I do not contact you again about
that opening. If I have a second one, I may send it on, too. But
after two or three openings without any response, I typically
assume that you are not looking and leave you alone. If you
respond with a not interested, I either update my notes about
you to reflect what openings you are interested in or I update
them that you are currently working. If you are happy in a job,
then I wait about a year and then check-in again.
I typically take no response as not interested. If someone
really was, he/she would find a way to reach me. Funny enough, I
have candidates who will bug me daily to know if I heard from
the manager about their resume. While I understand their
eagerness, I want to say, "Trust me, if the manager was
interested in you, I would definitely find you!!!"
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Re: Recruiters
By: NewHomeowner Date: January 18, 2019, 6:47 am
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[quote author=Hanna link=topic=947.msg24194#msg24194
date=1547734753]
Recruiters can be so cut-throat. I once had a guy pretend to be
hitting on me ask for my phone number, only because he wanted it
for recruiting purposes.
[/quote]
Back in the days when I seemed to be job-hunting as a career, I
was contacted by a LOT of recruiters. In those days, I had a
lot of references, but then I found out that all of those
recruiters were trying to *recruit* my references!! After that,
I left my reference list at the bare minimum(3), and warned
everybody that this might happen.
Another recruitment story, sort of unrelated: Back in the
those days, I talked to a lot of recruiters. I soon learned
that the best ones just sent me to job interviews using the
strength of my resume. The recruiters who said, 'We need to
see you first', never got me a job. NEVER. Why? Because I
was an over-40 extra-large woman who didn't wear a suit and
heels (not needed in my profession, and besides, this was DC in
the summer! I'd DIE). And they were usually some
just-out-of-college little tiny thing, who would see me coming
and think, 'OMG she's HUGE!! We'll never get her a job!' (yes,
I saw that in their eyes). They would be polite to my face, but
I assumed my resume would be shredded the second I left the
office.
But my experience and professionalism won the other recruiters,
and I managed to get good jobs anyway, and now I'm doing very
well for myself. And I never lost a pound, and still don't own
a suit.
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Re: Recruiters
By: DaDancingPsych Date: January 18, 2019, 8:09 am
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I hate horror recruiter stories. I accepted my job, because I
thought that I would get to help other people find jobs.
(Watching my dad lose his job twice during my childhood really
left an impression.) While that is not really what my job is
(occasionally I get to help someone who is truly excited about
landing a position), I still want to do good by all those
involved. Sketchy recruiters make my job more difficult as
everyone looks at me suspiciously. :-\
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