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Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: Rose Red
Date: January 11, 2019, 8:44 am
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These magazine stories about this topic reminds me of one. A
story was written by a woman who said that she was born in a
country that was suddenly taken over by a dictator. She said one
event she experienced as a child was her teacher using chocolate
to brainwash children into embracing the new regime and leader.
I recognized it was the exact tale of The Children's Story by
James Clavell.
I suspect she plagiarized, but what if she had read the book and
mixed it up with her childhood memories?
#Post#: 23764--------------------------------------------------
Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: guest657
Date: January 11, 2019, 9:54 am
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--- Quote from: Rose Red link ---
>
> These magazine stories about this topic reminds me of one. A
story was written by a woman who said that she was born in a
country that was suddenly taken over by a dictator. She said one
event she experienced as a child was her teacher using chocolate
to brainwash children into embracing the new regime and leader.
I recognized it was the exact tale of The Children's Story by
James Clavell.
>
> I suspect she plagiarized, but what if she had read the book
and mixed it up with her childhood memories?
>
--- End Quote ---
Or James Clavell based his story on real practices of
authoritarian regimes. A time-honored practice for authors
seeking to make their work realistic.
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Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: STiG
Date: January 11, 2019, 10:17 am
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I will sometimes tell a story about something that happened
within my immediate family many years ago. And I'm the only one
who remembers it. Did I make it up/dream it? Did I read
something and later weave it into my memory as happening to me?
Or does my family just have really poor recall?
I remember these things so clearly that I'm convinced the answer
is C but sometimes, I wonder.
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Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: Thitpualso
Date: January 11, 2019, 10:47 am
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--- Quote from: Anon4Now link ---
>
> [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=937.msg23759#msg23759
date=1547217875]
> These magazine stories about this topic reminds me of one. A
story was written by a woman who said that she was born in a
country that was suddenly taken over by a dictator. She said one
event she experienced as a child was her teacher using chocolate
to brainwash children into embracing the new regime and leader.
I recognized it was the exact tale of The Children's Story by
James Clavell.
>
> I suspect she plagiarized, but what if she had read the book
and mixed it up with her childhood memories?
>
--- End Quote ---
Or James Clavell based his story on real practices of
authoritarian regimes. A time-honored practice for authors
seeking to make their work realistic.
[/quote]
I can certainly believe that the chocolate story is true.
We had an Austrian lady who was a volunteer in our library. She
was a child when Hitler took over Austria and she mentioned the
chocolate bribes. 60 years later, she would eat chocolate but
wouldn’t touch the stuff if it was
German.
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Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: Rose Red
Date: January 11, 2019, 10:59 am
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--- Quote from: Thitpualso link ---
>
> [quote author=Anon4Now link=topic=937.msg23764#msg23764
date=1547222056]
> [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=937.msg23759#msg23759
date=1547217875]
> These magazine stories about this topic reminds me of one. A
story was written by a woman who said that she was born in a
country that was suddenly taken over by a dictator. She said one
event she experienced as a child was her teacher using chocolate
to brainwash children into embracing the new regime and leader.
I recognized it was the exact tale of The Children's Story by
James Clavell.
>
> I suspect she plagiarized, but what if she had read the book
and mixed it up with her childhood memories?
>
--- End Quote ---
Or James Clavell based his story on real practices of
authoritarian regimes. A time-honored practice for authors
seeking to make their work realistic.
[/quote]
I can certainly believe that the chocolate story is true.
We had an Austrian lady who was a volunteer in our library. She
was a child when Hitler took over Austria and she mentioned the
chocolate bribes. 60 years later, she would eat chocolate but
wouldn’t touch the stuff if it was
German.
[/quote]
I don't know. This woman's story was too close to Clavell's book
if you know what I mean. It wasn't just about teachers and
chocolate in a generic sort of way; it was the surrounding story
too. I forgot to mention this magazine was on the level of those
"true confession" type magazines, so not exactly the Times. Who
knows though?
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Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: January 11, 2019, 12:32 pm
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--- Quote from: Anon4Now link ---
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> Erm...I have done this before. I have an eccentricly
unreliable memory, and a vivid imagination. I had no idea how
unreliable, until I was brought up short years ago.
>
> I was telling a really funny anecdote about encountering a
tourist on the street who made a hilarious remark...and my
co-worker turned to me and said, "You know, *I* told that story
to you."
>
> I was flabbergasted. On further consideration, I realized she
was quite right. It was very disorienting, because it seemed so
real. But it was a valuable experience, because it taught me
where one of my weak spots is, and I've been much more careful
ever since. (It's been especially valuable when dealing with
people who try to gaslight me. I always get independent
confirmation or check outside references/sources.)
>
>
--- End Quote ---
This reminds me of Brian Williams' story about being in a
helicopter in one of the middle east wars, and HRC's story about
being under fire.
The writer Malcolm Gladwell talked about memory unreliability in
one of his podcasts.
Fascinating stuff!
HTML http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/23-a-polite-word-for-liar-memory-part-1
HTML http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/24-free-brian-williams
Interestingly, one of the pilots who "busted" Brian Williams
himself got several factual things wrong about that same event.
#Post#: 23789--------------------------------------------------
Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: NFPwife
Date: January 11, 2019, 1:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Rose Red link ---
>
> [quote author=Thitpualso link=topic=937.msg23769#msg23769
date=1547225251]
> [quote author=Anon4Now link=topic=937.msg23764#msg23764
date=1547222056]
> [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=937.msg23759#msg23759
date=1547217875]
> These magazine stories about this topic reminds me of one. A
story was written by a woman who said that she was born in a
country that was suddenly taken over by a dictator. She said one
event she experienced as a child was her teacher using chocolate
to brainwash children into embracing the new regime and leader.
I recognized it was the exact tale of The Children's Story by
James Clavell.
>
> I suspect she plagiarized, but what if she had read the book
and mixed it up with her childhood memories?
>
--- End Quote ---
Or James Clavell based his story on real practices of
authoritarian regimes. A time-honored practice for authors
seeking to make their work realistic.
[/quote]
I can certainly believe that the chocolate story is true.
We had an Austrian lady who was a volunteer in our library. She
was a child when Hitler took over Austria and she mentioned the
chocolate bribes. 60 years later, she would eat chocolate but
wouldn’t touch the stuff if it was
German.
[/quote]
I don't know. This woman's story was too close to Clavell's book
if you know what I mean. It wasn't just about teachers and
chocolate in a generic sort of way; it was the surrounding story
too. I forgot to mention this magazine was on the level of those
"true confession" type magazines, so not exactly the Times. Who
knows though?
[/quote]
I get that that one was too close, but I'm really inclined to
give people the benefit of the doubt. I think authors borrow
from history, current events, their lives, and stories of their
friends heavily. And that was before I turned up as a character
in someone's books. With my name barley changed. (Think Janine
turned to Jeanie.)
#Post#: 23845--------------------------------------------------
Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: Kiwipinball
Date: January 11, 2019, 9:49 pm
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The whole stolen story/not being able to remember whose story it
was is really reminding me of a plot point in the latest season
of Orange is the New Black. I won't spoil it, but it does come
up. :)
#Post#: 24276--------------------------------------------------
Re: She stole my story!! (Accidentally, I'm sure)
DIR By: lowspark
Date: January 18, 2019, 12:28 pm
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I actually had a narrow escape from this very thing once. ;)
I was telling a story that someone had told me, only I couldn't
remember *who* had told me. So I told the story and at the end
said, "I can't remember who it was that told me this story!"
Well, it so happened that the one who had told me was sitting
right there!
She said, "I was the one who told you this story, and I was
sitting there listening, waiting for you to take credit!"
So I was sure glad I didn't. I now will never forget who told me
that story!
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