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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: Jem
Date: January 18, 2019, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: Hanna link ---
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> [quote author=Aleko link=topic=925.msg24243#msg24243
date=1547795075]
> I think it also makes a difference who you're saving seats
for. It's one thing to race on ahead to bag and hold seats for
your elderly parents or very-pregnant wife; for perfectly
able-bodied friends, not so much.
>
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I don’t see a problem with saving the seats for able bodied
friends, but I do see an issue if you refuse to get up for
someone that asks because they need it. But how can we judge?
You just can’t always tell who is able bodied and who is not.
[/quote]
I think that if a person in your group really "needs" a seat, it
would be best to either stay with that person to help them on
the train (in which case no need to "save" a seat) or go ahead
to get a seat and then give up YOUR seat to the person with you
who "needs" it. I have no problem with "saving seats" when there
are open seats elsewhere (this is more of a "everyone gets to
sit, I just was hoping to sit by my friend - do you mind taking
the seat over there instead so we can sit together), but on a
train that is likely to fill I think a person who asks you to
move so they can sit in a "saved" seat should be able to sit.
If it were me, it's not like I would demand to sit if an elderly
woman with her leg in a cast was the person the seat was being
saved for.....but I would question why the person doing the
saving would expect ME to give up MY seat when SHE won't give up
HER seat for her own friend/relative.
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: Songbird
Date: January 23, 2019, 2:43 pm
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Mre drama on the train today -- I think I could write a book.
Three seats facing two seats (see photo attached)
There was a woman in each of the window seats, and a woman in
the aisle seat of the three-seat bench. Actually she was in
the aisle seat and part of the middle seat.
I took the aisle seat on the two-seat bench. it was clear from
the moment that I sat down that the woman in the other aisle
seat did not want me to be there. She rolled her eyes when I
sat down. and when I went ot put my totebag on the floor beside
me, she admonished me to make sure I didn't put the bag on her
feet -- yes, she had her legs stretched out so far that her feet
were next to my seat. I did manage to find room on the floor
for the bag, though. And for most of the ride, she had her left
leg pressed against my right leg.
But I didn't think she did anything so overt or obvious that I
could call her out.
Until she got off the trian. She got off two stops before I
did, and she "accidentally on purpose" body slammed me as she
walked past me. and at that point I was too shocked to say
anything.
I think she may have been upset because I sat in the seat
intended for her friend, who got on the train at the stop after
I did.
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: Jem
Date: January 23, 2019, 3:32 pm
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--- Quote from: Songbird link ---
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> I think she may have been upset because I sat in the seat
intended for her friend, who got on the train at the stop after
I did.
>
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Her friend should have taken the middle seat! ;D
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: lakey
Date: January 23, 2019, 4:44 pm
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> Songbird on Today at 02:43:42 pm
> I think she may have been upset because I sat in the seat
intended for her friend, who got on the train at the stop after
I did.
>
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> Her friend should have taken the middle seat! ;D
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Her friend should find someone decent to hang around with. I
wouldn't associate with a person who physically assaults
strangers when she doesn't get her own way. Songbird was right
to not respond. There's no point in trying to communicate with
someone who would do that.
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: February 9, 2019, 3:49 pm
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--- Quote from: AliciaLynette link ---
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> The same thing happens TootsNYC, on buses in the UK, to the
point that there are signs and the driver will yell 'Please move
down the bus.' to get more people on. Of course, most people
here will move themselves without being asked, but there always
one who ignores the fact they're blocking people from getting
past!
>
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This is an ages-old situation. After all:
>singing<
"And the driver on the bus says, 'Move on back, move on back,
move on back.'
And the driver on the bus says, 'Move on back,' all through the
town."
(this was the only one I could find w/ that lyric)
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYaOyR6JOyU
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: Songbird
Date: February 14, 2019, 2:19 pm
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Oh, my ...
A propos of this discussion, today I read a newspaper report
about a woman who refused to let anyone sit next to her on a
crowded commuter train. She told other passengers that they
could not sit next to her, that there were plenty of other seats
despite the fact that people were standing in the aisles. She
started screaming that she didn't want "their smell or their
bedbugs" near her. When a man sat beside her, she kept putting
her purse in his lap. Most of this was captured on video.
The conductor was summoned, and he told her that she had to be
quiet and allow someone to sit beside her. When she continued
to raise a ruckus, the conductor told her to settle down or she
would be removed from the train.
She didn't settle down, the police were summoned, and she
voluntarily left the train.
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: Rose Red
Date: February 14, 2019, 4:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Songbird link ---
>
> Oh, my ...
>
>
> A propos of this discussion, today I read a newspaper report
about a woman who refused to let anyone sit next to her on a
crowded commuter train. She told other passengers that they
could not sit next to her, that there were plenty of other seats
despite the fact that people were standing in the aisles. She
started screaming that she didn't want "their smell or their
bedbugs" near her. When a man sat beside her, she kept putting
her purse in his lap. Most of this was captured on video.
>
> The conductor was summoned, and he told her that she had to be
quiet and allow someone to sit beside her. When she continued
to raise a ruckus, the conductor told her to settle down or she
would be removed from the train.
>
> She didn't settle down, the police were summoned, and she
voluntarily left the train.
>
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Man: "Thanks!" Digs through purse. ;)
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: February 14, 2019, 5:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Songbird link ---
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> Oh, my ...
>
>
> A propos of this discussion, today I read a newspaper report
about a woman who refused to let anyone sit next to her on a
crowded commuter train. She told other passengers that they
could not sit next to her, that there were plenty of other seats
despite the fact that people were standing in the aisles. She
started screaming that she didn't want "their smell or their
bedbugs" near her. When a man sat beside her, she kept putting
her purse in his lap. Most of this was captured on video.
>
> The conductor was summoned, and he told her that she had to be
quiet and allow someone to sit beside her. When she continued
to raise a ruckus, the conductor told her to settle down or she
would be removed from the train.
>
> She didn't settle down, the police were summoned, and she
voluntarily left the train.
>
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There is a part of me--the part that rides the NYC subway--that
would be mad at the people who kept insisting in sitting there.
It feels like they were picking a fight.
Yeah, sure, she was wrong--but she was also apparently unhinged,
and in NYC, you don't engage the crazy. We all want to get home
with as little drama as possible, and if one person has to stand
who could have sat, that's a reasonable price to pay when you're
confronted with that kind of unhinged-ness.
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Re: Would you say something, or just endure?
DIR By: LurkingGurl
Date: February 15, 2019, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Songbird link ---
>
> Oh, my ...
>
>
> A propos of this discussion, today I read a newspaper report
about a woman who refused to let anyone sit next to her on a
crowded commuter train. She told other passengers that they
could not sit next to her, that there were plenty of other seats
despite the fact that people were standing in the aisles. She
started screaming that she didn't want "their smell or their
bedbugs" near her. When a man sat beside her, she kept putting
her purse in his lap. Most of this was captured on video.
>
> The conductor was summoned, and he told her that she had to be
quiet and allow someone to sit beside her. When she continued
to raise a ruckus, the conductor told her to settle down or she
would be removed from the train.
>
> She didn't settle down, the police were summoned, and she
voluntarily left the train.
>
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Here's the article--and there's VIDEO!
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6709273/Passengers-confront-woman-refused-purse-train-seat.html
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