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       #Post#: 850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: JeanFromBNA
       Date: May 15, 2018, 5:05 pm
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       With kids that young, I would have given them both something, or
       waited until she was out of sight to give it to him.  As long as
       it's not a birthday present, I think that you should try to be
       fair in a kid's eyes.  I don't like getting presents for kids
       who are not the birthday child.  It's a great time to learn the
       lesson that not everything is about you, but it will come around
       eventually.
       #Post#: 887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: guest249
       Date: May 15, 2018, 6:16 pm
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       This one is tough for me. In general, if I were to bring a gift
       for a friend's five year old, I would also bring one for her 3
       year old.  But, I wouldn't consider the cardboard dinosaur a
       gift and I do think that sometimes people go a little too far
       with the idea of 'fairness.'  Of course we should be fair, but
       that doesn't mean to treat children exactly the same, all the
       time.  Handing a little boy a cardboard cereal box dinosaur does
       not mean that you have to find something for his younger sister
       too.  And while I won't fault a 3 year old for not
       understanding, she is only ever going to understand if the
       adults around her explain it to her.  Maybe next time the cereal
       box will have a teddy bear on it, and she would get that and her
       brother would get nothing.  She can cry, IMO, but the answer,
       for me, would not be to appease her.
       The fact that you asked the mother ahead of time if it was ok
       (which is what I think I would have advised you to do if you
       asked before gifting the boy), and she was ok with it, makes me
       lean towards this being a failure on her part.   She allowed you
       to give her son something that while enjoyable to him, was
       really an arbitrary item with no lasting value.  Her response to
       her daughter having a problem with that was to give her
       something that her son truly coveted and then allow her to ruin
       it (even if she allowed it by not noticing/thinking that would
       happen).
       I don't think you did anything wrong.  But, next time it might
       be better to give him something privately.
       #Post#: 890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: guest260
       Date: May 15, 2018, 6:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Once a Lurker link ---
       >
       > These are young children so I would take them each something
       or take nothing. I don't think you did anything wrong though.
       You tried to do something nice and it backfired but it isn't
       your fault. The mother didn't handle it very well at all but
       that's not your fault either.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree with this - also, a three year old really doesn’t have
       the foresight to stash a marker for the purpose of destroying
       something that her brother has, and I think that’s kind of a
       weird suggestion. They don’t have the cognitive capacity to do
       that. She’s not being a brat, she’s being a three year old.
       They’re tiny, amoral destructors.
       I think you should for sure start teaching them the lesson that
       sometimes someone gets one thing, and someone else gets another
       but I wouldn’t expect that lesson to have stuck already.
       Edited for weird spacing issues!
       #Post#: 947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: guest264
       Date: May 15, 2018, 10:10 pm
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       My best friend has 7 kids, I make sure to bring something that's
       for "everyone" when I go over, usually a bag of candies. Then if
       I do have something special for one of them, a book I found in
       my old trunk or whatever it may be, I sneak it to them with a
       wink. They get it, siblings are used to knowing that it's
       usually everyone or nobody.
       The 3 year old wasn't being sneaky, she was decorating the
       wallet she coveted, she doesn't know that now it's ruined, have
       you ever seen a 3 year old's "pictures"? She still needs to be
       taught that's wrong but that's a different story and a different
       person who would need that advice!
       She can easily be a wonderful mother who made an error. It's
       just like caving to a tantrum any day which happens to every
       parent ever, you pick your battles.
       #Post#: 971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: Meglena
       Date: May 16, 2018, 12:18 am
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       I think this depend on the children's ages. With little kids I
       would try to give each something except for birthdays.
       The mother was probably trying to do her best to cope with the
       little girl's reaction, but I agree that giving her the son's
       valued possesion was a mistake.
       Checking with the parents beforehand, as you did, is the way to
       go. After the children's actions are on the parents.
       #Post#: 976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: iolaus
       Date: May 16, 2018, 3:28 am
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       If it's a 'just because' present at that age I would give to all
       the kids (so for a birthday I wouldn't feel I had to but a free
       cardboard cut out - I'd have printed out a colouring picture for
       the little girl
       #Post#: 1257--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: lithigin
       Date: May 16, 2018, 7:09 pm
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       Good responses, for sure. At that age, a wildflower or yellow
       dandelion head is a sufficient gift for a 3 y.o., for future
       reference. Or a drawing of a stick figure or a sun or whatever.
       Hopefully that helps, that a gift doesn't necessarily have to be
       bought!
       #Post#: 1452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: Sweet Jane
       Date: May 17, 2018, 11:30 am
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       I can't imagine giving something to one child and not the other.
       I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, and certainly the
       younger child does have to learn that sometimes only one sibling
       gets a gift, but at that age it's a tough lesson.
       Did you give the gift to the older sibling in front of the
       younger one? Even the best-behaved and most gracious
       three-year-old would probably not react well to that. I would
       make sure to give the gift outside the presence of the younger
       sibling, or slip it to mom so she can give it to him privately
       at a later time.
       #Post#: 1702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: Loves to polish silver
       Date: May 18, 2018, 3:36 am
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       As a mother to a 6 year old, 4 year old & 10 month old, I agree
       that this was a complete parenting fail and not your fault at
       all!  I can also say that you did your friend a favor by leaving
       so that she could deal with the aftermath of her poor handling
       of the 3 year old. While I'm 50/50 as to whether the wallet
       destruction was to be unkind to the brother, I find it likely.
       At this age, I think it's often better to do all or nothing for
       random gifting - even of a cereal box dinosaur.  The only time I
       think you truly should give a gift to all children is when a new
       baby is born because the older ones can truly be missing out on
       attention & do emotionally nedd that extra bit of love then.
       #Post#: 2058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do I have to gift all siblings simultaneously?
   DIR By: Take2
       Date: May 18, 2018, 9:08 pm
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       I would do a gift for every child or a gift that is easy to
       share. And I would hold the dinosaur until next time and keep an
       eye out for something of like value for the sibling. Why? I like
       my friends, so I don't set them up for a fun episode of "hard
       lessons with toddlers" when I visit and I trust them to handle
       that important topic another day without the discomfort of
       parenting a challenging moment with an audience.
       The wallet thing is weird to me, because I personally would not
       hand one child's possession to another child without the owner's
       permission...that's part of how we teach respect for other
       people's stuff. (I may even still hold a little grudge for the
       time my mother demanded to borrow one of my prized possessions
       that wasn't replaceable for a project and accidentally ruined it
       when I was 8...more than 30 years ago!)
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