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       #Post#: 22254--------------------------------------------------
       Being sick = going home?
       By: shadowfox79 Date: December 26, 2018, 5:47 am
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       This came up at work a few days ago and I wondered what everyone
       thought.
       I can remember back in school when if you threw up this
       automatically meant you got sent home. Similarly, when I briefly
       worked bar jobs, this also meant a free pass home since you were
       handling food and drinks. However, now that I work an office
       job, unless it's a major case of food poisoning, I tend to just
       ride it out. I also have a condition (undiagnosed, but my doctor
       thinks it's related to my IBS) where I will randomly get
       nauseous for no reason, so if I'm feeling sick I'll just get it
       over with and go back to my desk.
       The other day I arrived at work feeling nauseous, so made a trip
       to the bathroom while my computer was logging in. The bathroom
       was empty when I got there but I heard someone come in as I was
       in the middle of things; I waited a minute afterwards to give
       them time to leave, but it turned out to be one of our team
       leaders who had decided to wait to see who was being sick. She
       told me if I wasn't well I should go home, but I managed to
       convince her that I felt better and would go home if it got any
       worse.
       At least, I thought I'd convinced her, but she apparently went
       straight to my own TL, who came to my desk and we had the same
       conversation again. Since our sick leave is heavily monitored I
       really didn't want to waste a sick day on one bout of vomiting.
       Fortunately my TL accepted that I was feeling better now,
       although she came by my desk several times to check it hadn't
       happened again.
       So - is it really necessary, in an office job, to go home
       because you threw up once, even when you know it's nothing
       contagious?
       #Post#: 22255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: RubyCat Date: December 26, 2018, 6:57 am
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       [quote author=shadowfox79 link=topic=894.msg22254#msg22254
       date=1545824827]
       So - is it really necessary, in an office job, to go home
       because you threw up once, even when you know it's nothing
       contagious?
       [/quote]
       No. I can understand people being afraid of catching something
       awful like norovirus but there are many causes of
       nausea/vomiting that are not contagious. What if someone is
       pregnant and suffering with morning sickness? What if you ate
       something that disagreed with you? What if you get motion
       sickness?
       That being said, if a person does have something that is
       potentially contagious, they should go home and not risk
       infecting those around them. And their manager should allow it.
       I once worked at a place where a coworker was vomiting and
       feeeling awful but the manager insisted that she finish her
       shift.  >:(. She sat in the back looking green and the rest of
       us covered her work but she should have gone home.
       #Post#: 22256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: AvidReader Date: December 26, 2018, 7:03 am
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       I think the stay/go home decision is based on how you feel after
       the episode of vomiting.  If the episode clears things up and
       does not further impact your performance of your duties, then
       stay.  If you feel that the episode will lead to not feeling
       better or feeling worse/contagious as the day goes on, (and thus
       impacting your work performance and/or the health of others),
       then by all means take the sick day. You are the only person who
       can really make that call in the moment.  Your TL, in stopping
       by several times, was, in my view, just checking to see that you
       were indeed feeling better (and not potentially exposing others
       to something contagious....it being that time of year).
       #Post#: 22283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: Girlie Date: December 26, 2018, 11:19 am
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       Ooh, no.... When I was pregnant with my first child, I threw up
       every day for about seven months. Morning sickness is not a
       reason to miss work, in my humble opinion.
       Not to mention, people like my mom have very sensitive tummies
       and will often be sick shortly after eating something that
       disagreed with her. After being sick, she usually feels much
       better and is ready to get back to work.
       If someone is being sick multiple times, if they're running a
       fever, if they're also running out of the other end... Then I
       think it's time to go home.
       #Post#: 22284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: Dazi Date: December 26, 2018, 11:32 am
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       There are many conditions which can cause nausea and vomiting
       which are not contagious in the least. I think it's up to the
       person who is ill whether they go home, unless it's clear that
       this will affect their work day immensely or there is absolutely
       no doubt this is contagious (ie you are person number five this
       week puking at work/and you are obviously running a fever).
       I know two people with gastroparesis who have issues with random
       vomiting. I have Celiac disease and occasionally will have
       problems with diarrhea and vomiting if I get glutened. It's not
       an uncommon migraine symptom either. I've known plenty of
       pregnant ladies who've had morning sickness their entire
       pregnancies. Not one of these is contagious, and usually once
       the person has gotten it out of their system, they feel fine.
       #Post#: 22285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: December 26, 2018, 11:34 am
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       [quote author=Girlie link=topic=894.msg22283#msg22283
       date=1545844765]
       Ooh, no.... When I was pregnant with my first child, I threw up
       every day for about seven months. Morning sickness is not a
       reason to miss work, in my humble opinion.
       Not to mention, people like my mom have very sensitive tummies
       and will often be sick shortly after eating something that
       disagreed with her. After being sick, she usually feels much
       better and is ready to get back to work.
       If someone is being sick multiple times, if they're running a
       fever, if they're also running out of the other end... Then I
       think it's time to go home.
       [/quote]
       Totally agree with the bolded!
       But I'm a 'puker'*...
       Stressed?  Yup.  Cough too much?  Yup.  Clearing up after
       people's pets?  Yup.  Too tired?  Yup.  Migraine?  Yup.  Boat
       travel?  Yup.  Reading in a car?  Yup.  My friend [with morning
       sickness] telling me about having to run to throw up because a
       guy spent 20 minutes clearing out his sinuses in reception?  Not
       quite, but only because she could see me turning green. ;)
       I wouldn't say any of those should mean I miss out on a day's
       pay [temps only get paid when they're there (wherever there
       is)], with the possible exception of the cough: sometimes I
       cough because I don't cope well with badly set-up
       air-conditioning [throat gets too dry, especially when I have to
       talk] - that shouldn't send me home, but a lurgy should.
       * That was a 'diagnosis' from one doctor!
       #Post#: 22304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 26, 2018, 2:41 pm
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       For one of my jobs (not an office job), vomiting means, do the
       deed and then go back to work. I cannot leave in the middle like
       that.
       For the office job, I agree with others that there are many
       times that you do feel better afterwards. If you are contagious,
       it would be kind to head home.
       #Post#: 22306--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: Aleko Date: December 26, 2018, 3:05 pm
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       I agree that if as in OP's case the sickness isn't caused by
       anything contagious, and doesn't affect her ability to work, she
       didn't need to go home and she should feel no pressure to do.
       So.
       But of course the TLs were absolutely right to check out the
       situation, for her and everyone else's sake, and make sure she
       wasn't staying at her desk because she felt it would be a bad
       mark against her if she went home - that she knew she could
       leave if she needed to.
       If someone knows that vomiting is sometimes or often something
       that happens to them, and several people here say it is for
       them, there's an argument for putting their TL in the picture,
       so that if and when it occurs they know it's not anything they
       have to worry about and they can reassure the rest of the
       workforce.
       #Post#: 22312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: Winterlight Date: December 26, 2018, 5:48 pm
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       I don't think it's unreasonable for the bosses to check on
       someone who's just thrown up, but they should accept that
       person's verdict in the absence of other evidence.
       #Post#: 22328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Being sick = going home?
       By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: December 26, 2018, 8:13 pm
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       It's the equivalent of me sneezing violently for less than 5
       minutes.  No, I do not have a cold and am not contagious.  The
       dust and dryness here is making me sneeze. I am trying to not be
       disgusting (copious tissues to mask any grossness), but if you
       let me sneeze for a few minutes, then it will stop, and I will
       be fine.
       It's nice that supervisors were concerned, but some conditions
       are resolved with a few minutes of your body expelling whatever
       was irritating it, and then it's onward and upward.
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