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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: JeanFromBNA
Date: December 28, 2018, 2:28 pm
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> I don't know where "here" is, but depending on the design of
your metro system, getting on and off trains every couple of
stops could have significantly increased the amount of time that
strangers were subjected to the noise: now it's not just an
n-minute ride, it's that plus one or more several-minute waits
for trains. And how annoying the noise would be depends whether
the station is underground or outdoors, and for an underground
station, the acoustics vary, as does the amount of noise the
trains make. (Montreal trains are quieter than New York or
Boston's; here in Boston the green line is especially noisy
going into and out of Government Center.)
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Not to mention having to get off at unfamiliar stops and get
back on, which may require climbing and descending narrow stairs
or crossing busy streets with three very young children.
The child was unhappy for reasons we don't know. They tried to
comfort her; it didn't work. Sometimes children just wail.
It would have been cool if this had happened:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QMM_nTuC4
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: December 28, 2018, 7:28 pm
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in similar situations as a passenger (or, last week as a
customer in line w/ a 3- or 4-yo who was just done with being
patient while mom was shopping, and about to become whiny), I
have intervened by striking up a conversation with the child (it
sure stopped that little girl from being quite so bored with
everything!).
And if the kid doesn't respond, I then converse animatedly with
their siblings, or barring that, with their parent--the crying
kid usually quits out of sheer curiosity, and a desire to not be
left out.
It's not quite the Lion King, but it's something much more
interesting that the child's personal misery.
It doesn't always work; I'm not always in a position to
interject myself easily, and sometimes I don't think of it.
But it worked in the department store just before Christmas!
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: Lula
Date: December 29, 2018, 12:46 pm
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If I tried that, the kid would only cry harder.
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: NFPwife
Date: December 30, 2018, 6:23 pm
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--- Quote from: TootsNYC link ---
>
> in similar situations as a passenger (or, last week as a
customer in line w/ a 3- or 4-yo who was just done with being
patient while mom was shopping, and about to become whiny), I
have intervened by striking up a conversation with the child (it
sure stopped that little girl from being quite so bored with
everything!).
>
> And if the kid doesn't respond, I then converse animatedly
with their siblings, or barring that, with their parent--the
crying kid usually quits out of sheer curiosity, and a desire to
not be left out.
>
> It's not quite the Lion King, but it's something much more
interesting that the child's personal misery.
>
> It doesn't always work; I'm not always in a position to
interject myself easily, and sometimes I don't think of it.
>
> But it worked in the department store just before Christmas!
>
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I do the same when I'm in a situation where there's no
reasonable retreat.It's so disarming to the little squealer that
it works. In a store, my go-to for a 3-4 yo is "Oh no! You
probably didn't realize it, but this is the no-crying section of
the store! You passed it when you came in, the crying section
ends right past produce. (Or the bakery or whatever is near the
front of the store.)" They're so busy processing if that's true
or if I'm crazy that they forget to cry. Other times I'll make
funny faces to babies. I don't intervene 100% of the time, but
if I think it has a remote chance of working I'll try.
In this instance, I would have gotten off the train. I'm
auditorially sensitive and wouldn't have taken a chance on
intervening and failing. It wouldn't occur to me that they
should get off.
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: Thitpualso
Date: December 31, 2018, 11:25 am
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Over a decade ago we were on a subway train during the Holiday
season. It wasn’t crowded but there was a very fussy toddler in
a stroller. There was also a trio of older men quietly
rehearsing a doo-op routine.
They called the Mom with the toddler over to them and began to
sing a very soothing version of ‘Old McDonald Had a Farm’ with
finger snapping. The child Was enthralled and began to coo.
When the performance was over, those of us in the car applauded.
It was a lovely experience.
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: LifeOnPluto
Date: December 31, 2018, 9:53 pm
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I'd cut the family some slack. Yeah, the screaming sounds
annoying, but they were probably tired and stressed, and in the
child's case, overwhelmed.
I also don't think the family should have gotten off at the next
stop, to "wait out the tantrum". Aside from the inconvenience
(which other posters have pointed out), what if the child was
screaming because she doesn't like being on the train and wants
to get off? If the family gets off the train, they've taught the
child a dubious lesson: if you scream your head off and disturb
others, you'll eventually get what you want!
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Re: Screaming child in metro
DIR By: wonderfullyanonymous
Date: January 1, 2019, 2:34 pm
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There is always this scenario:
Kids up to late on Christmas Eve, maybe they went to a midnight
mass, or just the excitement of Christmas. Kids up way to early,
the excitement of Santa Claus coming while they were asleep.
Everyone excitedly opens up presents, now, everything gets put
back under the tree, we have to get breakfast, and get to
Grandma and Grandpa's house. Toddler is now getting to the edge
of exhaustion and just wants to go to sleep. Instead of getting
a nap, she is getting winter clothing on, to be put in a
stroller and climb on a noisy train. Instead of being able to
sleep, she is throwing a tantrum, which is what toddlers do. The
only way that baby was going to sleep, at that point was if she
cried herself to sleep. If she is not used to sleeping with
noise around her, she was not going to sleep on that train.
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