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       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: December 11, 2018, 4:40 pm
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       > If I knew ahead of time that the people doing the asking are
       slowpokes about getting dinner on the table I would eat
       beforehand.
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       Or I might insist on bringing appetizers of some sort, even if
       I'd just chips and guac from the corner deli.
       (if you have a corner deli; not every locality does)
       #Post#: 21213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: Chez Miriam
       Date: December 12, 2018, 4:58 am
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       We go for an annual meal prepared by a friend, and after the
       first few times of "7 for 7.30" when we didn't eat till much
       later*, we started to have a snack just before going...
       Then we started eating a full meal just before going: that way
       we weren't hungry, and could cope with a late meal.  It felt
       rude to take only small portions after the cook had gone to so
       much effort, but neither of us cope well with eating the main
       course at midnight.
       * The worst time I remember was starving till the really late
       people rocked up at 10.30pm, then nibbles started to materialise
       about 15 minutes after their arrival; we left about 2am, and so
       missed out on the desserts. :'(
       We realised that if the host was prepared to be polite to the
       rude people at the expense of being rude to the polite people,
       we weren't being too rude to show up without much of an
       appetite. :-[
       We got caught out the year the host didn't wait the meal for the
       "Tardies", and we were particularly happy he'd stopped doing
       that this year - someone telephoned Mr Tardy after we'd finished
       the main course, to find that they were coming the following
       week!  I foresee a large helping of ribbing in their future. ;)
       I have an ex-boyfriend who prepared 'dinner' for me; I was
       nearly at the point of screaming at him to "hurry the eff up" by
       the time it materialised at 4am!
       TL;DR: be as late as you like serving food, but don't expect
       people to have an appetite/be happy when it doesn't arrive in a
       timely fashion.
       #Post#: 21227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: Writer of Wrongs
       Date: December 12, 2018, 8:20 am
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       Miriam - 10:30 p.m.? Midnight? Dessert after 2 a.m.? Dinner at 4
       a.m.?  :o I can't imagine - but I don't eat anything after 9
       p.m. (preferably no later than 8:30) and try to be asleep at 10.
       Was this in a group consisting of mostly night-workers, or some
       similar dynamic? E.g., I can see this happening for theatre or
       music folks, since their work doesn't end until quite late, but
       for the average office-type I would find this incredibly unusual
       and difficult.
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       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: Chez Miriam
       Date: December 12, 2018, 8:47 am
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       >
       > Miriam - 10:30 p.m.? Midnight? Dessert after 2 a.m.? Dinner at
       4 a.m.?  :o I can't imagine - but I don't eat anything after 9
       p.m. (preferably no later than 8:30) and try to be asleep at 10.
       >
       > Was this in a group consisting of mostly night-workers, or
       some similar dynamic? E.g., I can see this happening for theatre
       or music folks, since their work doesn't end until quite late,
       but for the average office-type I would find this incredibly
       unusual and difficult.
       >
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       Nope, just a bunch of hopelessly British people.  Even the
       Tardies are British, just less worried about whether people will
       think them rude for being rude. ::)
       It's a hopeless trait that we'd hate to ask something as direct
       as "may we eat, in the absence of two guests who are known for
       poor timekeeping?".  Much better that the stiff upper lip
       suffers in silence? ::)
       The 'dinner at 4am' ex is an ex for that reason.  I think
       cannabis use may have contributed to his 'relaxedness'. :-[
       #Post#: 21332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: GardenGal
       Date: December 12, 2018, 8:48 pm
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       I have a friend from Brazil, and she tells me that in her
       country, when you're invited for dinner at 6pm you never show up
       before 8pm and don't expect to eat immediately.  She said that
       if you showed up at 6pm you'd likely find that the hostess was
       just starting to get showered and dressed.  She and her husband
       went to graduate school in the US, and he got used to the way
       most people in the US will say "dinner at 6pm" and eat soon
       after.  When they went back to Brazil on their next visit, and
       he was ready to got to a party at the stated starting time, she
       reminded him that he was back on Brazilian time now and to wait
       a couple of hours.
       An American friend invited me to her family's annual New Year's
       festival, which was held on the New Year (in late winter, as I
       recall) as celebrated in her husband's Persian culture.  She
       said the party started at 7pm and there would be lots of
       home-cooked food, prepared by her husband.  We arrived on time
       and the house smelled fabulous (we happened to love Persian
       food).  By the time dinner was finally served, around midnight,
       I thought I'd faint from hunger.  I think it must have been the
       custom to welcome in the new year with a feast at the start of
       the year at midnight, but we weren't informed of how late we'd
       be eating.  The food was totally fabulous and worth the wait.
       (Here's a bit of info on this holiday: "Nowruz, the Persian and
       Zoroastrian New Year... For Iranians, the 13-day festivities —
       Nowruz, also spelled Nerwoz or Noroz, translates to "new day" in
       Farsi — begin at the exact moment that spring starts."
       #Post#: 21515--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What should I have done here?  
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: December 14, 2018, 10:01 pm
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       I think the hosts in the OP were definitely rude, for not
       offering her any refreshments in the first hour, and
       dilly-dallying with cooking the actual dinner! I can't blame the
       OP at all for being "hangry"!
       That said, it sounds like this is just how the hosts roll. And
       it does seem a little abrupt for the OP to just get up and leave
       after an hour. (Although I can certainly understand her
       frustration).
       Going forward, I would only accept invitations from these people
       if I was happy with hanging around and socialising for hours on
       end. (Which for me, having a 9-5 Monday to Friday job, would
       mean in practical terms that I'd only accept invitations from
       them on weekends). And I'd definitely eat something substantial
       earlier, so I wasn't left hungry!
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