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       #Post#: 20657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her.  UPDATES see #6 & #8
   DIR By: GardenGal
       Date: December 3, 2018, 7:12 pm
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       And to those who asked about what my DH was thinking about not
       figuring she'd want to bring her boyfriend with her if she moved
       here... my DH wasn't thinking at all.  It was a totally
       spur-of-the-moment suggestion (more of a comment, really, as in
       "You could move into the apartment here for not much money if it
       was fixed up), and I think that both my BFF and I took it to be
       a lot more serious an offer than DH had meant it to be.
       #Post#: 20659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her. UPDATE
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: December 3, 2018, 7:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: wolfie link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=850.msg20600#msg20600
       date=1543847879]
       > [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=850.msg20597#msg20597
       date=1543846051]
       > [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=850.msg20587#msg20587
       date=1543829224]
       > Hi again- good news!  My BFF brought up the possibility her
       and her boyfriend moving into our apartment and I told her that
       DH and I had thought more about it and that it wouldn't be
       possible for the reasons I mentioned above, and she was
       perfectly understanding about it.  She asked with a grin if she
       might move there "when he dies" (he's 75), and I told her of
       course!  So, all's well.
       >
       > Thanks for your replies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wait, he's 75 and you think it's wrong for him to be not working
       full time and to be hanging out at the house and playing on the
       internet? Shoot, that's what most of the 75 year olds I know do!
       [/quote]
       I'm not the OP, but he would be 59 years old 16 years ago. I
       guess the OP is thinking about the entire 16 years of behavior.
       Still, one does not invite only half of a couple and I can't
       imagine what the OP's DH was thinking.
       [/quote]
       59... which is 5 years past "conventional" retirement age. I
       know people who plan to retire by then.
       [/quote]
       Wolfie, I think you might be in Europe?  In US the expected
       retirement age is more like 65, and getting older as congress is
       gradually raising the age we can collect social security.  Some
       people do retire earlier, but it’s not super common. Those
       people I know that have done that typically have planned
       extensively, or worked for the government or were in the
       military all of their lives.  In my line of work, I’ll have to
       pay my own healthcare if I retire before a certain age, and
       that’s really pricey.  I talked to a coworker today who told me
       he’d love to retire, but he will be 70 before it’s possible.
       #Post#: 20671--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her.  UPDATES see #6 & #8
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: December 4, 2018, 2:01 am
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       Chuckling to myself... At 75 years old, there is no way that
       this guy could be considered a boy friend!
       #Post#: 20709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her. UPDATE
   DIR By: wolfie
       Date: December 4, 2018, 1:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hanna link ---
       >
       > [quote author=wolfie link=topic=850.msg20610#msg20610
       date=1543857672]
       > [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=850.msg20600#msg20600
       date=1543847879]
       > [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=850.msg20597#msg20597
       date=1543846051]
       > [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=850.msg20587#msg20587
       date=1543829224]
       > Hi again- good news!  My BFF brought up the possibility her
       and her boyfriend moving into our apartment and I told her that
       DH and I had thought more about it and that it wouldn't be
       possible for the reasons I mentioned above, and she was
       perfectly understanding about it.  She asked with a grin if she
       might move there "when he dies" (he's 75), and I told her of
       course!  So, all's well.
       >
       > Thanks for your replies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wait, he's 75 and you think it's wrong for him to be not working
       full time and to be hanging out at the house and playing on the
       internet? Shoot, that's what most of the 75 year olds I know do!
       [/quote]
       I'm not the OP, but he would be 59 years old 16 years ago. I
       guess the OP is thinking about the entire 16 years of behavior.
       Still, one does not invite only half of a couple and I can't
       imagine what the OP's DH was thinking.
       [/quote]
       59... which is 5 years past "conventional" retirement age. I
       know people who plan to retire by then.
       [/quote]
       Wolfie, I think you might be in Europe?  In US the expected
       retirement age is more like 65, and getting older as congress is
       gradually raising the age we can collect social security.  Some
       people do retire earlier, but it’s not super common. Those
       people I know that have done that typically have planned
       extensively, or worked for the government or were in the
       military all of their lives.  In my line of work, I’ll have to
       pay my own healthcare if I retire before a certain age, and
       that’s really pricey.  I talked to a coworker today who told me
       he’d love to retire, but he will be 70 before it’s possible.
       [/quote]
       No I live in NY. But 16 years ago 55 was considered a good age
       to retire. At this point I know with health care costs many
       people are worried if they can afford to retire but I am
       surprised how many people on this thread are shocked that a 75
       year old isn't working.
       #Post#: 20711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her. UPDATE
   DIR By: Rose Red
       Date: December 4, 2018, 2:38 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: wolfie link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hanna link=topic=850.msg20659#msg20659
       date=1543888096]
       > [quote author=wolfie link=topic=850.msg20610#msg20610
       date=1543857672]
       > [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=850.msg20600#msg20600
       date=1543847879]
       > [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=850.msg20597#msg20597
       date=1543846051]
       > [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=850.msg20587#msg20587
       date=1543829224]
       > Hi again- good news!  My BFF brought up the possibility her
       and her boyfriend moving into our apartment and I told her that
       DH and I had thought more about it and that it wouldn't be
       possible for the reasons I mentioned above, and she was
       perfectly understanding about it.  She asked with a grin if she
       might move there "when he dies" (he's 75), and I told her of
       course!  So, all's well.
       >
       > Thanks for your replies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wait, he's 75 and you think it's wrong for him to be not working
       full time and to be hanging out at the house and playing on the
       internet? Shoot, that's what most of the 75 year olds I know do!
       [/quote]
       I'm not the OP, but he would be 59 years old 16 years ago. I
       guess the OP is thinking about the entire 16 years of behavior.
       Still, one does not invite only half of a couple and I can't
       imagine what the OP's DH was thinking.
       [/quote]
       59... which is 5 years past "conventional" retirement age. I
       know people who plan to retire by then.
       [/quote]
       Wolfie, I think you might be in Europe?  In US the expected
       retirement age is more like 65, and getting older as congress is
       gradually raising the age we can collect social security.  Some
       people do retire earlier, but it’s not super common. Those
       people I know that have done that typically have planned
       extensively, or worked for the government or were in the
       military all of their lives.  In my line of work, I’ll have to
       pay my own healthcare if I retire before a certain age, and
       that’s really pricey.  I talked to a coworker today who told me
       he’d love to retire, but he will be 70 before it’s possible.
       [/quote]
       No I live in NY. But 16 years ago 55 was considered a good age
       to retire. At this point I know with health care costs many
       people are worried if they can afford to retire but I am
       surprised how many people on this thread are shocked that a 75
       year old isn't working.
       [/quote]
       How odd. Even as a child (more than 16 years ago :P), I was
       always told 65 is the "normal" age of retirement. Maybe that's
       just the age where you got full benefits or something ???
       #Post#: 20713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her. UPDATE
   DIR By: Star Wars Fan
       Date: December 4, 2018, 3:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hmmm link ---
       >
       > [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=850.msg20587#msg20587
       date=1543829224]
       > Hi again- good news!  My BFF brought up the possibility her
       and her boyfriend moving into our apartment and I told her that
       DH and I had thought more about it and that it wouldn't be
       possible for the reasons I mentioned above, and she was
       perfectly understanding about it.  She asked with a grin if she
       might move there "when he dies" (he's 75), and I told her of
       course!  So, all's well.
       >
       > Thanks for your replies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wait, he's 75 and you think it's wrong for him to be not working
       full time and to be hanging out at the house and playing on the
       internet? Shoot, that's what most of the 75 year olds I know do!
       That exactly what I think. From the way it sounded I figured
       they were much younger people, but being that they're in their
       70s they're old enough to be my parents! And I don't know
       anybody that age that works full time (maybe a few people that
       work part time). Most of them because they want to be retired
       and some of them because they're just not physically able to
       anymore. So I really don't understand what the OP's thinking. I
       know they don't like the boyfriend, but unless he's being
       verbally or physically abusive this is a case where they should
       definitely mind their own business.
       Ed.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 20759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her.
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: December 5, 2018, 4:35 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: GardenGal link ---
       >
       > TBH, it saddens me that she has settled for this guy rather
       than continuing to date and keep her options open, but obviously
       that's her choice and not my call.  At our ages (early 70s), the
       dating pool is pretty shallow.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think you've answered your own question here. If the dating
       pool for your ages/location is shallow, perhaps your friend
       doesn't think she'd find anyone better (if at all). Yeah, this
       guy sounds like a total mooch, but maybe he's a decent companion
       in other ways?
       And add me to the list of people who say there's no real polite
       way to extend an offer like that to only half of a long-term,
       established, living-together couple. Sorry!
       #Post#: 20763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her. UPDATE
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: December 5, 2018, 6:54 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Rose Red link ---
       >
       > [quote author=wolfie link=topic=850.msg20709#msg20709
       date=1543953523]
       > [quote author=Hanna link=topic=850.msg20659#msg20659
       date=1543888096]
       > [quote author=wolfie link=topic=850.msg20610#msg20610
       date=1543857672]
       > [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=850.msg20600#msg20600
       date=1543847879]
       > [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=850.msg20597#msg20597
       date=1543846051]
       > [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=850.msg20587#msg20587
       date=1543829224]
       > Hi again- good news!  My BFF brought up the possibility her
       and her boyfriend moving into our apartment and I told her that
       DH and I had thought more about it and that it wouldn't be
       possible for the reasons I mentioned above, and she was
       perfectly understanding about it.  She asked with a grin if she
       might move there "when he dies" (he's 75), and I told her of
       course!  So, all's well.
       >
       > Thanks for your replies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wait, he's 75 and you think it's wrong for him to be not working
       full time and to be hanging out at the house and playing on the
       internet? Shoot, that's what most of the 75 year olds I know do!
       [/quote]
       I'm not the OP, but he would be 59 years old 16 years ago. I
       guess the OP is thinking about the entire 16 years of behavior.
       Still, one does not invite only half of a couple and I can't
       imagine what the OP's DH was thinking.
       [/quote]
       59... which is 5 years past "conventional" retirement age. I
       know people who plan to retire by then.
       [/quote]
       Wolfie, I think you might be in Europe?  In US the expected
       retirement age is more like 65, and getting older as congress is
       gradually raising the age we can collect social security.  Some
       people do retire earlier, but it’s not super common. Those
       people I know that have done that typically have planned
       extensively, or worked for the government or were in the
       military all of their lives.  In my line of work, I’ll have to
       pay my own healthcare if I retire before a certain age, and
       that’s really pricey.  I talked to a coworker today who told me
       he’d love to retire, but he will be 70 before it’s possible.
       [/quote]
       No I live in NY. But 16 years ago 55 was considered a good age
       to retire. At this point I know with health care costs many
       people are worried if they can afford to retire but I am
       surprised how many people on this thread are shocked that a 75
       year old isn't working.
       [/quote]
       How odd. Even as a child (more than 16 years ago :P), I was
       always told 65 is the "normal" age of retirement. Maybe that's
       just the age where you got full benefits or something ???
       [/quote]
       Same here, and in my family it’s common to work into your 70s.
       My great grandmother worked until she was 91, I think. Grandpa
       until he was 78 at least. I have an aunt working still at 71,
       Uncle at 77, another aunt on the other side of the family that’s
       79 and that’s off the top of my head.  My parents retired at 62
       and 65 and considered themselves lucky, because both expected to
       work until at least 66. But they both had state jobs while all
       the other people mentioned above run their own businesses and I
       think they generally don’t know what to do with themselves other
       than work.
       I don’t think this guy is a bum for not working at his age, but
       I do think quitting so young and then living off his girlfriend
       shows a lack of character.
       #Post#: 20770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her.  UPDATES see #6 & #8
   DIR By: wolfie
       Date: December 5, 2018, 9:14 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       i always heard it as you get your gold watch and retire at 55.
       How often that happens i have no idea but i know of at least two
       families by me who hope to retire in their late 40s.  And if
       someone can afford to retire at a "young age" then who am I to
       judge them. Good for them for being able to drop out of the rat
       race.
       #Post#: 20784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I don't like by BFF's boyfriend, but want to see more of
       her.  UPDATES see #6 & #8
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: December 5, 2018, 11:22 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: wolfie link ---
       >
       > i always heard it as you get your gold watch and retire at 55.
       How often that happens i have no idea but i know of at least two
       families by me who hope to retire in their late 40s.  And if
       someone can afford to retire at a "young age" then who am I to
       judge them. Good for them for being able to drop out of the rat
       race.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As long as they are not doing it on the back of a 75 year old
       woman, good for them!
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