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       #Post#: 19776--------------------------------------------------
       When would you arrive?
       By: Hmmm Date: November 24, 2018, 7:21 pm
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       Short question. If you received an email 7 days prior and a
       follow up text the morning of with the below, what time would
       you show up for a holiday meal.
       "Hi all. Happy Thanksgiving! We'll be serving lunch between 1
       and 2pm depending on when food is ready. Please come over
       anytime after Noon."
       I have a sister with a disability and she gets tired easily. So
       I don't want to tell her to come at noon if I know lunch won't
       be served till after 1 or later so I like to give a range.
       Long Story
       I will start with that I adore my inlaws and have learned over
       the last 25 years to "deal" with the issue of their arrival on
       time. But this year, my DD and her SO had to leave by a specific
       time to get to his parent's home and she was really ticked and
       stressed.
       On Sunday, my BIL and SIL was having a family celebration for
       their son's bday. They invited us to a late lunch for 2pm. There
       was significant traffic and we arrived at 2:15. We called to say
       we were running late because of the traffic. (It's normally 15
       min drive on a Sunday afternoon, it took us 35 min.) Around
       2:45, MIL had not arrived. SIL called her to learn she was still
       on the road and still needed to make a stop for a gift. We went
       ahead with lunch at 3. MIL arrived around 3:30.
       We sort of joked about it but I said "Come Tday remember my
       email said I need to serve lunch between 1 and 2 due to DD
       needing to leave by 3. Come anytime after noon." MIL and SIL
       said they were bring appetizers.
       I send a text
       My family and friends all arrive between 12:15 and 1. At 1pm I
       send a text to MIL, SIL, and BIL and his family (hosts from
       Sunday) asking where they are. BIL responds "just pulling up".
       About 15 minutes later, MIL calls and says she is on her way and
       will arrive in 15 minutes (so 1:30). At 1:45, SIL texts "2pm
       right?" and I say "No, we are serving lunch between 1 and 2".
       We started setting carving the pork roast and turkey and setting
       everything out and SIL arrived as we were about to start serving
       (we had 20 for Tday).
       DD was upset that I hadn't given a specific time for everyone to
       arrive.
       I could tell SIL was a little miffed that there was minimal
       social time prior to her arrival and starting to serve lunch.
       My friends and family were a little upset that they arrived
       before 1 and I only had minimal snacks to serve because I
       thought appetizers were being brought.
       In the long run we all had a nice holiday, but for an hour it
       was pretty stressful. My kids and I got into a "discussion"
       because they thought by saying lunch between 1 and 2 gave them
       the leeway to not show up till 2.
       So I'm just really curious on how other's interpret my time
       frame.
       #Post#: 19780--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: STiG Date: November 24, 2018, 7:59 pm
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       I would interpret it that I should be there by 1:00 but I know
       other people who would think that they should show up at 2:00.
       When I host family for large meals, I'll tell them to come
       anytime after X:00 and that I'm planning to serve the meal at
       X:00 + 1 hour.  With time challenged folks?  I wouldn't tell
       them what time I was serving the meal.  I'd tell them to come at
       X:00 and hope they arrive before I serve.  I also wouldn't ask
       them to bring something for before the meal if they are
       perpetually late; that's asking for trouble.
       #Post#: 19781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: TootsNYC Date: November 24, 2018, 8:01 pm
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       I would think I needed to be there no later than 1:15. I would
       assume that you think it's LIKELY the meal won't be ready to eat
       until 2, but I'd expect there to be some people to speak with
       before, and I wouldn't want to be late if it was earlier.
       (this wasn't your question, but in your situation, I wouldn't
       give a range; I'd just plan for the food to be ready at 1:30,
       and have my easily tired sister come then, and I'd keep the food
       warm in the meantime. And I'd start promptly at 1:30)
       (and if someone texted me at 1:45 and said "2pm, right?" I don't
       know why I'd ever mention 1 o'clock--it's long gone. I'd just
       say, "no, we're serving right now.")
       #Post#: 19782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: TootsNYC Date: November 24, 2018, 8:02 pm
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       [quote author=STiG link=topic=831.msg19780#msg19780
       date=1543111152]
       With time challenged folks?  ... I also wouldn't ask them to
       bring something for before the meal if they are perpetually
       late; that's asking for trouble.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, especially appetizers! (insert eye roll here--aimed at
       them. how oblivious to themselves are they?)
       #Post#: 19790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: Luci Date: November 24, 2018, 10:40 pm
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       We are usually punctual, so we would arrive few minutes after 1.
       When we say we are serving at a certain time, we do. BIL and
       wife have missed a lot of fresh food.
       One time we were invited for dinner. We had a family milestone
       birthday party  long planned so told the host we absolutely had
       to leave by 4. They hadn’t even started preparing until after we
       arrived. I'll never forget the look on their faces when we left
       on time as they were preparing dessert. We were on time for a
       lovely dinner.
       I’m sorry you have to deal with some of those people.
       #Post#: 19794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: Bgolly Date: November 24, 2018, 11:12 pm
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       I would arrive at 12:20. I would also ask what I could bring. If
       the hosts said "nothing" I would bring a nice bottle of wine if
       I knew they drank wine. Otherwise I would bring a nice bouquet
       of flowers in a vase or a box of chocolates. I regularly host
       holiday meals for my family and in-laws and my biggest problem
       is with people showing up too early. For example dinner is
       served at 5 but they come at 2. When someone hosts family they
       are at the mercy of their idiosyncrasies. I now have an ashtray
       outside (We don't smoke) toothpicks ready, my computer is turned
       off and locked, a stock of fruity alcohol drinks etc. I get many
       strange requests while I'm busy in the kitchen.
       #Post#: 19795--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: lakey Date: November 24, 2018, 11:41 pm
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       [quote]"Hi all. Happy Thanksgiving! We'll be serving lunch
       between 1 and 2pm depending on when food is ready. Please come
       over anytime after Noon.[/quote]
       I would assume that the meal could start as early as 1 or as
       late as 2. So, I would be there before one. I would expect
       guests to understand that the meal might start at 1. As far as
       your DD's complaint, it isn't your fault that your in laws can't
       figure out what "We'll be serving lunch between 1 and 2 PM"
       means.
       People who have never prepared and served a meal with a roasted
       turkey or ham, and at least 5 or 6 hot side dishes, have no idea
       how difficult it is to have everything hot and ready at the same
       time. So, you have to give a range for when you will actually
       eat. Also, if people arrive late, it is almost impossible to
       keep that many dishes warm while you wait. I think that your DD
       and your in laws, if they've never done one of these meals, have
       no idea of the difficulties.
       #Post#: 19798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: Jem Date: November 25, 2018, 1:46 am
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       It is surprising to me the people who would arrive at 1:00 or
       later! The text clearly said to arrive any time after noon, with
       the meal being *served* between one and two. I personally would
       plan to arrive at 12:00-12:07ish, especially if I offered to
       bring an appetizer.
       I think the only way to handle this is to cheerfully serve the
       meal when it is ready between one and two. Those who arrive late
       will be greeted with a smile but also a firm, “we wondered why
       you weren’t here.”
       #Post#: 19802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: Dazi Date: November 25, 2018, 5:49 am
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       In my family this would mean you should plan to be there around
       12:15-12:30, with 12:45 being late 😉
       #Post#: 19806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When would you arrive?
       By: Hanna Date: November 25, 2018, 8:01 am
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       What time we would all arrive based on those instructions isn’t
       really relevant, right?  You have to be specific and clear about
       the time with people who are always late, then plan on them
       still being late.  Because for whatever reason, they really
       don’t care if they are holding up the entire show.
       Also, as someone above mentioned, don’t depend on those types
       for important contributions to the meal, especially not the
       appetizers.
       I don’t think I could start without my Mom or MIL though,  and
       in your case I would have had DD making the calls to get them
       there on time, since she was the one on a tight schedule.
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