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       #Post#: 19419--------------------------------------------------
       More street parking fun
   DIR By: MOM21SON
       Date: November 20, 2018, 9:19 am
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       Parking on the street here is legal and a PITA.
       So last night when DS got home he parked in one of the empty
       spots.  A short time later the doorbell rang and it was some man
       demanding that he move his car.  By that time, whoever was
       parked in front of our house had left.  Great!  DS moved his car
       and all was good.  We laughed about something so stupid.
       Later that night, DS went to the store.  When he went out to his
       car, he found a note on it.  The note said.
       "Please do not park in my spot, that spot is mine for my
       residence!  If you have any questions, feel free to call me!"
       She left her name and phone number.
       We plan on doing or saying nothing.  My good friend Karma always
       takes care of things.
       Was it necessary to come back with a note?  Does one really get
       to claim a spot on the street?
       #Post#: 19430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: November 20, 2018, 11:44 am
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       I don't think an answer is "necessary", no. But if I had the
       time and the energy I'd be inclined to respond along these
       lines:
       --- Quote ---
       > "Wow! In all the years I've lived here I assumed we all just
       had to take our chances looking for somewhere to park on the
       street, just like everywhere else I've ever lived, but you're
       saying that residents have legal entitlement to a specific
       parking spot on our street? I had no idea! Please do send me a
       copy of your house deeds, indicating where that right is listed,
       and how your parking spot is identified. Then I can check my own
       deeds to find out where mine is, and when I can prove my legal
       right to it I can use that, and will no longer need to park in
       front of my own house."
       --- End Quote ---
       She might gather that I was being as sarcastic as old doohick,
       but she couldn't prove it - on the face of it, that response is
       nice and cooperative. And she would have to be very brazen
       indeed to continue to insist that that parking spot was "hers",
       although she has no legal right to it.
       #Post#: 19447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: Despedina
       Date: November 20, 2018, 3:21 pm
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       I'm confused, he moved his car in front of your house, and
       someone claims that a spot in front of your house is theirs?
       I think I'd contact the note writer but only because my sister
       was in a similar situation and kept getting notes on her car
       about street parking "rights". She ignored it and came to her
       car one day with the whole side keys and a new note.  The note
       writer did not identify himself in that situation.
       #Post#: 19454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: GreenBird
       Date: November 20, 2018, 5:28 pm
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       I think I'd ignore it the first time, but if you run into the
       neighbor or it happens again, I'd say something like, "Hey, I
       got your note.  I actually do try to park in front of my own
       house just like you do, but unfortunately none of the street
       parking spots are specifically reserved for each house.  And
       when I can't park in front of my own house, I still have to park
       somewhere.  But I always try to park in front of my own house
       first!"
       If the neighbor doubles down on it being a city rule or law or
       something, I'd just say, "Oh, please show me where it says that
       - I'd love to have the spots in front of my house reserved for
       me!"
       #Post#: 19456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: November 20, 2018, 6:53 pm
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       At first I thought there were two incidents.
       The first was when someone came to ask her son to move his car
       (Parking Spot Claimant No. 1); then a similar situation arose
       when someone ELSE left a note on her son's car (Parking Spot
       Claimant No. 2). That two people in her nabe were getting
       possessive about those spots.
       Then I realized these were on the same night.
       Is it possible the note was actually from his first parking
       spot, and he didn't see it? That maybe one person in the family
       left the note, and mentioned it to the other, who came and
       knocked on the door.
       Otherwise, if it's in front of your house, why would someone
       else think it's their space? (If houses are tight, or there are
       apartments, I can see it, geographically.)
       I might stroll down to my city councilman's office and see if
       there's a possibility they can send out a letter to everyone on
       that block pointing out that it's not legal to claim "ownership"
       over parking spots on city streets.
       It might be more than they'd want to do--but if you wrote a
       professional-sounding suggestion for wording (look up local
       laws, etc.), they might also be willing to simply because it
       might promote some calm in the neighborhood.
       Or, maybe the Community Affairs officer at the Parking
       Violations Bureau, or the local police precinct...
       If they thought it would head off future trouble. (People have
       been shot over parking spaces before.)
       My ILs' next-door neighbor is kind of weird, and very hostile,
       and he knocked on the door and got nasty about their visitors
       parking in front of his house. (They do have a lot of company--a
       big family, with plenty of multi-person gatherings.)
       So they just have trained us all to avoid him. So by being
       unpleasant, he gets his way. (there are plenty of other spots,
       since this is a neighborhood w/ 2-car garages and driveways)
       But for Mom21Son, yeah, I'd just keep ignoring it.
       I mean, if it's easy to move your car and someone asks a favor,
       I think it's not a bad idea to move when asked (if asked nicely,
       and I'd stress that it's a favor I'm doing)
       #Post#: 19472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: Raintree
       Date: November 21, 2018, 12:43 am
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       Nope, you don't own the street in front of your house. I have
       also come out to see such notes when visiting other people.
       Some of the busier neighbourhoods (which is just about all of
       them, these days) have areas with signs that say the parking is
       for residents of that block only. Or for residents of the
       general area. But those residents must pay for an annual permit
       which is displayed on their windshield, in order to have that
       privilege. It's not free. So to the ones that live in those
       non-regulated areas and still want to whine about people parking
       in front of their house, I would like to say, "Great, lobby city
       hall to implement permit parking on your street, and pay for it,
       just like I do because of a history of your coming over to MY
       neighbourhood and nabbing free parking in front of MY building
       so that you wouldn't have to pay for parking in the designated
       lots."
       #Post#: 19543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: caroled
       Date: November 21, 2018, 6:17 pm
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       TootsNYC
       I think Moms point was, that even after neighbor knocked on
       door and DS moved car ( no note), later when he went to the
       store there was now a note on the car... that even after a
       conversation, and moving of the car, neighbor still felt the
       need to come back and leave a note. basically admonishing Mom
       and DS twice.
       #Post#: 19554--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: MOM21SON
       Date: November 21, 2018, 7:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: caroled link ---
       >
       > TootsNYC
       > I think Moms point was, that even after neighbor knocked on
       door and DS moved car ( no note), later when he went to the
       store there was now a note on the car... that even after a
       conversation, and moving of the car, neighbor still felt the
       need to come back and leave a note. basically admonishing Mom
       and DS twice.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, that is it.  The note sent me over the edge.  I came home
       last night and the husbands truck was parked infront of our
       house.  lol.  What a jerk.  Counting down the days to get outta
       here!
       #Post#: 19569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: November 22, 2018, 4:15 am
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       The note was definitely over the top. Even if your DS had
       accidentally parked illegally in someone else's designated spot,
       he still did the right thing by moving his car. It's bad form to
       keep admonishing someone when they have corrected their "fault".
       (Putting "fault" in quotation marks, as your DS did nothing
       wrong by parking in a public street!).
       #Post#: 19572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: More street parking fun
   DIR By: Bada
       Date: November 22, 2018, 5:50 am
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       --- Quote from: MOM21SON link ---
       >
       > [quote author=caroled link=topic=823.msg19543#msg19543
       date=1542845858]
       > TootsNYC
       > I think Moms point was, that even after neighbor knocked on
       door and DS moved car ( no note), later when he went to the
       store there was now a note on the car... that even after a
       conversation, and moving of the car, neighbor still felt the
       need to come back and leave a note. basically admonishing Mom
       and DS twice.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, that is it.  The note sent me over the edge.  I came home
       last night and the husbands truck was parked infront of our
       house.  lol.  What a jerk.  Counting down the days to get outta
       here!
       [/quote]
       Double standard much!?  How frustrating!
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