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       #Post#: 18822--------------------------------------------------
       Client managers expectations
       By: spunkyboy08 Date: November 11, 2018, 8:24 pm
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       A former co-worker of mine  works as a contract visitor parking
       attendant at a university. Her employer has a contract with the
       university. She reports to 2 managers, her direct manager who
       works for the same employer she works for, and the client
       manager, who is the Director of Parking and Transportation
       Services.
       She sits inside the visitor parking booth, which is roughly 50
       feet from the visitor parking garage and roughly 40 feet from
       the faculty/staff garage. She is responsible for informing
       visitors of the parking fee as well as where to pay for their
       parking.
       Recently the client manager told her that visitor parking will
       soon be renovated. Visitor parking is being moved to the first
       level of the faculty/staff garage. The client manager also told
       her that she will have additional responsibilities. According to
       the client manager, she is supposed to prevent any visitor from
       pressing the call button either at the call box at the entrance
       gate or the call box at the exit gate at the faculty/staff
       garage once visitor parking is moved to the first level of that
       garage. The reason for this is that the Parking office employees
       will be too busy to answer those calls. Calls from either call
       box are transferred to that office. So she was told that she has
       to watch for customers needing help in addition to assisting
       customers who drive up to the visitor parking booth window. The
       client supervisor also told her that her office does not want to
       receive any call from either call box.
       She is frustrated with what it happening at work.
       How should she approach both managers regarding this situation?
       #Post#: 18829--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: Aleko Date: November 12, 2018, 12:55 am
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       How is she supposed to prevent people using those call boxes -
       with a stun gun? If they remain functional, there is no way on
       earth that customers won't use them. It doesn't matter how well
       she does her job, or how large or clear the notices on the call
       boxes saying "DO NOT USE THIS BOX" are; people will use them.
       Basically, that's like being asked to burn water or weigh air.
       #Post#: 18839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: Kimberami Date: November 12, 2018, 6:15 am
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       It seems like it would be much simpler to have the call boxes
       disconnected or rerouted to the parking booth's phone. The
       request to prevent people from calling is silly.
       #Post#: 18841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 12, 2018, 7:42 am
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       At the time, it may have been wise to point out to client
       manager that while she was willing to take on the new
       responsibility that it would be impossible to be 100%
       effective... cite long list of reasons. However, I know that I
       am terrible with digesting new information and responding so
       quickly. At this point, I would take my concern to direct
       manager. As it would be better that this is a addressed between
       the managers. I might bring any suggestions that I think might
       help (ie. if the call box is disconnected or rerouting to the
       booth).
       If direct manager is not on-board with why it would be
       impossible to prevent every single person from calling, then I
       might re-approach client manager. Explain that I have been
       trying to brainstorm how to prevent people from calling (cite
       those reasons) and see if he/she has any suggestions. Again,
       bringing one's own suggestions might be wise.
       Sometimes reasonable managers miss the details. They have not
       fully thought a plan out and do not realize that it may not
       fully work. A reasonable manager would either find a fix or be
       understanding that some calls will make it into the office.
       Unreasonable managers... well... those are the tricky ones.
       #Post#: 19061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: spunkyboy08 Date: November 15, 2018, 8:49 am
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       I was able to speak to my former co-worker about this earlier
       this week.
       I mentioned the suggestions of having the phone calls from the
       call box routed to the phone inside the visitor parking booth as
       well as disconnecting the call button.
       My former co-worker mentioned that to her direct manager who
       works at her employer.
       Her direct manager spoke to the client manager, and the client
       manager turned down those suggestions.
       #Post#: 19068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 15, 2018, 9:11 am
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       [quote author=spunkyboy08 link=topic=804.msg19061#msg19061
       date=1542293396]
       I was able to speak to my former co-worker about this earlier
       this week.
       I mentioned the suggestions of having the phone calls from the
       call box routed to the phone inside the visitor parking booth as
       well as disconnecting the call button.
       My former co-worker mentioned that to her direct manager who
       works at her employer.
       Her direct manager spoke to the client manager, and the client
       manager turned down those suggestions.
       [/quote]
       Hopefully, client manager has an alternate plan up the sleeve.
       If not, then I would do the best job that I can and if a call
       makes it into their office and I am reprimanded/reminded for it
       I would probably offer the solution again. "I am sorry that I
       missed that driver; he/she must have missed the sign to not use
       the call box. Do you think that we could disconnect the call
       button to prevent this in the future?"
       #Post#: 19090--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: lakey Date: November 15, 2018, 5:35 pm
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       I'm unclear about the callbox. Is the purpose of the callbox for
       customers to call for help if they need it? If they aren't
       supposed to use it, why is it there? If it is only for the use
       of employees, can't something be done to it so that it can't be
       used by customers?
       #Post#: 19097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: spunkyboy08 Date: November 15, 2018, 6:41 pm
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       [quote author=lakey link=topic=804.msg19090#msg19090
       date=1542324954]
       I'm unclear about the callbox. Is the purpose of the callbox for
       customers to call for help if they need it? If they aren't
       supposed to use it, why is it there? If it is only for the use
       of employees, can't something be done to it so that it can't be
       used by customers?
       [/quote]
       Yes, the call-box is there for customers to call for help when
       they need it.
       It is also there for the employees who park in the garage to use
       when they need help.
       But the client manager, who is the Director of Parking and
       Transportation services, does not want any customer pressing the
       call button on the call-box for help since the calls from the
       call-box directly go to the Parking office where she and her 2
       staff members work.
       She also [b]does not[/b] want the call-box disconnected or the
       calls from the call-box re-routed to my former co-worker.
       I found out more information from my former co-worker later
       today.
       The university does not want a sign posted at the call-box
       directed to the customers stating to not press the call button
       for help.
       Also...
       The client supervisor still wants my former co-worker to
       literally prevent any customer from pressing the call button on
       the call-box because according to the client supervisor, the
       parking office staff cannot handle any calls from customers
       pressing the call button on the call-box in addition to
       university employees pressing the call button on the call-box
       and so on.
       #Post#: 19101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: baritone108 Date: November 15, 2018, 8:24 pm
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       It sounds like your friend needs to have a discussion with HR.
       The client manage is imposing an impracticable (legal term for
       impossible to meet) requirement on her.  Therefor, her inability
       to meet it at any time cannot legally result in any
       repercussions for your friend.  It would then be HR's
       responsibility to inform the client manager of this.  HR may
       also be able to determine why client manager has refused all
       suggestions which would make the new duties practicable.
       #Post#: 19159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Client managers expectations
       By: Bales Date: November 16, 2018, 6:51 pm
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       How the heck would your friend even know the difference between
       an employee exiting and hitting the call button and a customer?
       This is really a no-win for your friend since the expectations
       are not just unreasonable, but impossible.  She's supposed to be
       psychic and also be able to fly across how ever far from her
       booth to the car area when she sees someone who might be a
       customer reach for the call button no matter what else she is
       doing?
       Honestly, I'd simply tell both bosses I cannot do the impossible
       nor can I be held responsible for another person's actions (of
       pressing the button) particularly when there are no alternate
       instructions for those people to follow to get assistance.  I'd
       also think that the other employees in friend's role (since she
       can't be there every day, I am hoping) would do the same.
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