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       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: Hmmm Date: November 6, 2018, 10:44 am
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       A couple of points from me.
       It's only been in recent years that receiving a wedding
       invitation (or other gift giving event) was seen as potentially
       "gift grabs". Couples were told to invite people they would like
       to attend and not take into account whether the person would be
       able to attend. And wedding invitations could also be used to
       inform of an upcoming wedding and tell someone that they would
       be welcome even if you know that your elderly uncle wouldn't be
       traveling to the wedding. It was seen as much more hurtful to
       not send an invite and have the person later find out you were
       married and they didn't even rate an invitation. So I choose to
       continue to think the best of my friends and see all invitations
       that way.
       I also do not come from a culture where the cost of the gift is
       tied to the cost of hosting a guest. It wasn't until I joined
       eHell that I had even heard of that concept. Instead, gifts were
       based on how close you were to the couple and your own personal
       finances. So an aunt who was financially well off would probably
       give a more expensive gift than the co-worker you met at your
       first job post college  2 years ago. But they'd both be hosted
       to the same level.
       In your situation, I think your plans for a $30 gift is fine.
       You're no longer close to this person, but she did attend your
       wedding. But I would send a separate card of congratulations.
       edited to fix typo.
       #Post#: 18350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: kckgirl Date: November 6, 2018, 11:53 am
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       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=790.msg18340#msg18340
       date=1541522672]
       Your no longer close to this person, but she did attend your
       wedding. But I would send a separate card of congratulations.
       [/quote]
       I would do this, too. You may want to mention that you already
       had plans to travel to the area that day, but due to your
       husband's work schedule you cannot get there in time. If you say
       that, even if she sees any Facebook posts, it won't be a
       surprise with possible hurt feelings.
       #Post#: 18352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: Winterlight Date: November 6, 2018, 12:01 pm
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       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=790.msg18350#msg18350
       date=1541526819]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=790.msg18340#msg18340
       date=1541522672]
       Your no longer close to this person, but she did attend your
       wedding. But I would send a separate card of congratulations.
       [/quote]
       I would do this, too. You may want to mention that you already
       had plans to travel to the area that day, but due to your
       husband's work schedule you cannot get there in time. If you say
       that, even if she sees any Facebook posts, it won't be a
       surprise with possible hurt feelings.
       [/quote]
       Agreed. That seems like the kindest way to handle things.
       #Post#: 18362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 6, 2018, 12:56 pm
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       [quote author=Bada link=topic=790.msg18324#msg18324
       date=1541516410]
       I'm not planning to comment at all on the lack of a STD (DH
       already talked me out of that), so I don't see how my token gift
       would be viewed as a "statement".  I actually did consider
       making a comment about the STD, but only to give context: I have
       concerns that she'll see on FB that I'm in Relatively Nearby Big
       City that same day (we land at 5pm, the wedding is a few hours
       away at 2pm, so I literally couldn't make it in time). She'll
       know that I didn't come to her wedding and I don't want her to
       feel hurt that I avoided her on purpose. I'm hoping that she'll
       be so busy with wedding stuff it won't register and that it
       won't look like a slight.  Maybe I'll remove her from FB posts
       for a couple of days to avoid that issue.
       [/quote]
       Do not mention the lack of a STD card. It will not magically
       produce one in the past and is likely to come off as being
       judgmental. If you are concerned about being close to the
       wedding and not attending, then simply decline with a note like
       "I am sorry that we cannot attend, as we have previous plans.
       Best wishes and blah blah blah." True, had she sent a STD card
       you *might* have been able to adjust the plans, but she didn't,
       you can't, it is what it is. Unless she is some sort of terrible
       person, she is likely to not even notice or care that your plans
       were actually in the general area of her wedding.
       While I know and would tell you that it is not the value of the
       gift that matters, I understand the tit for tat point of view.
       Your selected gift sounds lovely from someone not attending the
       event. And it sounds like it is of similar value to what she
       gave. But let us assume that the bride deems your gift as being
       "cheap", do you really care? The impression that I am getting is
       that this is someone you used to be close with and you are not
       looking to hurt her, but you are not all that interested in
       rekindling the friendship. And if you found out that she has
       turned into the sort of petty person to look at the value of
       wedding gifts to determine the value of relationships, is this
       really someone you want in your life again? I would send the
       planned gift and wash my hands of the worry. Hopefully she will
       send a lovely thank you note and you can feel good about your
       deed.
       #Post#: 18367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: lmyrs Date: November 6, 2018, 1:39 pm
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       Mentioning the lack of STD sounds judgmental because it is
       judgmental. No one should feel obligated to send STD cards and 8
       weeks is plenty early for invitations. This particular event at
       this particular time with this particular notice didn't work out
       for the OP. Just because you are inconvenienced, doesn't mean
       someone else was rude. Sometimes these things just happen.
       #Post#: 18381--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How much do you spend?
       By: Bada Date: November 6, 2018, 3:18 pm
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       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=790.msg18350#msg18350
       date=1541526819]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=790.msg18340#msg18340
       date=1541522672]
       Your no longer close to this person, but she did attend your
       wedding. But I would send a separate card of congratulations.
       [/quote]
       I would do this, too. You may want to mention that you already
       had plans to travel to the area that day, but due to your
       husband's work schedule you cannot get there in time. If you say
       that, even if she sees any Facebook posts, it won't be a
       surprise with possible hurt feelings.
       [/quote]
       It's not really his work schedule that's the problem, though.
       It's the fact that airlines don't let you change your tickets
       without losing just about everything you spent on them and I'm
       not willing to flush $1,000 down the toilet.  I'll have to work
       on the wording for my card.  Maybe I'll just lay the blame there
       and be done with it.
       Thank you also to those of you who raised the idea of sending a
       separate card--honestly it hadn't occurred to me to send
       something separate.  I'll have to go find something nice.
       [quote author=lmyrs link=topic=790.msg18367#msg18367
       date=1541533148]
       Mentioning the lack of STD sounds judgmental because it is
       judgmental. No one should feel obligated to send STD cards and 8
       weeks is plenty early for invitations. This particular event at
       this particular time with this particular notice didn't work out
       for the OP. Just because you are inconvenienced, doesn't mean
       someone else was rude. Sometimes these things just happen.
       [/quote]
       I think this is just a word-choice issue on my part.  I wouldn't
       have literally said "If you'd sent a STD, I would have come."
       But I would have said (and will end up saying) something along
       the lines of the above--that unfortunately I'm not able to make
       it because I had already made other arrangements that could not
       be changed, or that we weren't able to make it due to DH's work
       schedule already being planned out (we are asked to plan our
       vacations for 2019 in October of 2018; you can ask for minor
       changes with as little as 2-3 months notice but less than that
       and they get cranky).
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=790.msg18332#msg18332
       date=1541520328]
       [snipped]
       Please understand that I don't wish to attack you personally
       when I say that I (and a lot of other people) find the "pay for
       your plate" idea actively disgusting. [snipped]
       [/quote]
       It's how I was raised, that's what I mean by it's "ingrained" in
       me.  I'm trying to overcome that mentality, and discussions like
       this are a part of that.  Please be patient with me while I work
       out my childhood demons.   :P
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