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       #Post#: 17664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: Belle
       Date: October 30, 2018, 12:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Surly link ---
       >
       > Hmm, this sounds really normal to me.  I regularly have to
       pick up packages at the post office.  Why is that an issue for
       you?  I'm in Canada though, maybe it's different here?  Normally
       if I have to sign for something or in places where there are
       locked post boxes, it's really normal to pick up packages from
       the post office.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Postal service must be different in Canada. The nearest place
       for me to pick up a package is 8 miles away, and they’re only
       open until 5pm. I work 30 minutes away from the post office, and
       don’t usually leave the office until 7. I would have to take
       several hours off work to pick up a package if they refused to
       deliver it. I would not be happy if I paid for delivery but had
       to lose several hours work to get it. It would be easier to
       purchase in store (on my own schedule) than to order online.
       #Post#: 17665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: October 30, 2018, 12:16 pm
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       Some of our postal outlets are located in places like drug
       stores and are sometimes open later in the evening, in Canada.
       I'm really lucky; my little village has its own post office that
       is open until 5:30 M-F AND it's open Saturday morning.  So I can
       usually get in there, no problem.
       #Post#: 17666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: October 30, 2018, 12:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aleko link ---
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       > I simply fail to see how a package can be small enough for the
       post office or a parcel company to handle, but too big for them
       to deliver. That just does not compute in any way.
       >
       > I can totally understand them saying "Sorry, we don't handle
       anything the size of a piano - suggest you hire a van or a
       removals company"; but if they accept a piano for carriage, by
       definition they must be capable of delivering it to the address
       stated, otherwise they are in breach of their contract.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I could see if they had a rule that they never leave packages
       out in the open; they must either fit inside your mailbox, or
       you have to be home to accept delivery.
       But I don't know if they have that rule.
       It's true in NYC: A package small enough to fit in with the cart
       of letters will get delivered with the letter mail.
       But a package too large for that gets delivered by a guy in a
       truck, and SOMEONE must accept the delivery. There is no way an
       NYC mail carrier is going to set a package on the front stoop of
       an apartment building and drive away.
       But even then, the answer wouldn't be "it's too big to
       deliver"; it would be "no one was there to sign for it."
       (especially in my building, we all sign for one another's
       packages; in previous buildings, I simply never had a package
       delivered to me at home; I was able to have them delivered at
       work, fortunately)
       #Post#: 17672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: lmyrs
       Date: October 30, 2018, 1:10 pm
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       I think that the USPS package pick up is not nearly as
       convenient as Canada Post. If a package can not be left, Canada
       Post takes it to the nearest pickup depot. They're almost always
       in drug stores or grocery stores. (In the cities. Small towns
       are different.) They're open until 9:00 PM most of the time but
       I see one that closes at 6:00 PM. They also do "Safe Drop" which
       means that if there is no one home, they will place the package
       somewhere "safe", meaning it can't be seen from the street, it's
       protected from elements, etc. Unless they need a signature,
       they'll leave it for you. I don't think that the average package
       requires a signature. (Except now for cannabis, which requires
       that you show your ID to prove age.)
       #Post#: 17676--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: Hmmm
       Date: October 30, 2018, 1:47 pm
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       We have USPS drop off packages all the time. Sometimes it's our
       normal mail carrier and other times they have a different driver
       coming through the neighborhood and doing package deliveries. We
       are even lucky enough that we get Sunday delivery of Amazon
       packages.
       I would start logging complaints about the delivery issue with
       both Amazon and with the USPS consumer advocates number. I've
       heard people have had really good results in problems being
       rectified when submitting complaints via the consumer complaints
       office.
       #Post#: 17678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: BeagleMommy
       Date: October 30, 2018, 2:02 pm
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       I would start by complaining to the local postmaster.  If you
       get no action from that person, you complain to the main
       postmaster of your city.
       I agree with whomever said it sounds like you have a lazy mail
       carrier.  BeagleDaddy gets computer parts delivered to the house
       all the time.  Many of them are quite large and won't fit in the
       mailbox.  They leave it on the porch.  If it was something that
       required a signature they leave a notice in the mailbox that you
       have a package needing signature.
       Since we are down to one car right now it would be a major
       effort if we had to pick up packages at the post office.  The
       one closest to us is only open until 5:00 pm.  I finish work at
       4:30 but have to wait for BeagleDaddy to pick me up.  We can't
       even use our lunch hours from work because they close from
       12:00-1:00 pm for lunch (there is only one person manning the
       post office at this location).
       #Post#: 17691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: Sweet Jane
       Date: October 30, 2018, 2:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
       >
       > Slightly off topic: I just had a package delivered from Amazon
       (the slow, free shipping, as I am actually not a Prime member.)
       When it finally shipped, I noted that the tracking information
       was not one of the typical carriers (USPS, UPS, FedEx...), but
       rather Amazon's own shipping company?!? On the day of the
       delivery, a white unmarked van pulled up to my house and dropped
       the package at the door. I could not see the man's shirt for
       identification, so maybe he was still with a third party
       carrier, but this all made me wonder if Amazon was moving
       towards having their own shipping company to avoid the various
       issues?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They do have their own shipping service, Amazon Logistics. I've
       had some not-great experiences with them early on, but they are
       definitely improving. I even get messages on my phone saying the
       package is near, and at that point I can watch the driver's
       progress on a map. When I've seen them they're in a white van
       with the Amazon logo.
       #Post#: 17697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver? - Good update
   DIR By: RubyCat
       Date: October 30, 2018, 2:56 pm
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       My Amazon package just arrived.  It was left on my porch.   :)
       This gigantic package measured 21"x26"x17" and weighed less than
       15 pounds.  Yes, I actually broke out the tape measure and
       weighed the package on the bathroom scale.
       I win  ;D   At least this round  ;)
       #Post#: 18034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: Surly
       Date: November 2, 2018, 12:59 pm
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       Thanks those of you who explained the Canada/U.S. difference.  I
       was offline for a bit so didn't get back to the thread.  That
       totally explains where I had it wrong and why I was confused by
       the OP's post!  Here it's so normal to go to the post office to
       pick up packages, I do it a few times a month, sometimes once a
       week.
       #Post#: 18035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Package too big to deliver?
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: November 2, 2018, 1:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: Sheena link ---
       >
       > [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=780.msg17657#msg17657
       date=1540915796]
       > Slightly off topic: I just had a package delivered from Amazon
       (the slow, free shipping, as I am actually not a Prime member.)
       When it finally shipped, I noted that the tracking information
       was not one of the typical carriers (USPS, UPS, FedEx...), but
       rather Amazon's own shipping company?!? On the day of the
       delivery, a white unmarked van pulled up to my house and dropped
       the package at the door. I could not see the man's shirt for
       identification, so maybe he was still with a third party
       carrier, but this all made me wonder if Amazon was moving
       towards having their own shipping company to avoid the various
       issues?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They do have their own shipping service, Amazon Logistics. I've
       had some not-great experiences with them early on, but they are
       definitely improving. I even get messages on my phone saying the
       package is near, and at that point I can watch the driver's
       progress on a map. When I've seen them they're in a white van
       with the Amazon logo.
       [/quote]
       Good to know. I didn't get a map or a message?!?  =(  Instead, I
       impatiently watched the front door all day!!!
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