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       Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
       By: Writer of Wrongs Date: November 2, 2018, 9:14 am
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       [quote author=STiG link=topic=776.msg17858#msg17858
       date=1541072164]
       [quote author=HenrysMom link=topic=776.msg17810#msg17810
       date=1541010149]
       I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to use
       a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and even
       with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a lung
       every time.
       [/quote]
       :o  What she was doing, essentially, was creating chlorine gas.
       Or mustard gas - used as chemical warfare in the first World
       War!  Highly, highly toxic - when chlorine gas comes into
       contact with moist surfaces, like the inside of your lungs, it
       forms a strong acid that eats away at the underlying surface.
       [/quote]
       My mother did this at work back in the 60s - she had no idea and
       hadn't read the labels. She started coughing up blood. The owner
       of the café where she worked saw her being sick, asked what had
       happened, and told her to go home and get some rest while they
       aired out the kitchen. She didn't have any lasting damage, but
       she definitely learned that lesson!
       #Post#: 18005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
       By: Writer of Wrongs Date: November 2, 2018, 9:20 am
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       [quote author=Lilac link=topic=776.msg17898#msg17898
       date=1541097625]
       This would be a dealbreaker for me.  As a healthy (knock on
       wood) person there is no way I would put up with such levels of
       chemical exposure, even for a few minutes a few times a day.
       They are poisoning the environment.
       I would schedule a meeting with management and say there is an
       issue that affects everyone and it needs to be resolved.  (I
       would collect empty Lysol cans for a period of time -- say, a
       month -- from the office garbage to bolster my case.)  I would
       simply insist that my workplace ban the spraying of toxic
       chemicals by untrained employees.
       If there is a rational concern about germs (is a large share of
       your client based comprised of ill / unvaccinated / otherewise
       high-risk people?) then a third-party firm should be hired to
       evaluate the risk and propose solutions.  If there is no more
       risk of germs than in any other communal zone -- school, retail
       stores, restaurants, public transportation etc. -- then
       employees are going to have to deal without chemicals.  Those
       who are excessively worried about germs can wear the sort of
       disposable face masks that healthcare workers wear to avoid
       contagion.
       In addition to the masks, perhaps the office would purchase a
       steam cleaner they only are about $50 -- according to a web
       search, "steam cleaning kills 99.9 percent of bacteria, germs
       and dust mites. This includes E. coli, Staph bacteria,
       Salmonella and other micro-organisms, surface molds, bacteria,
       viruses."
       Let them steam away to their heart's content and spare
       co-workers/the planet any toxins.  I find this a good solution
       in the home, too. For the price of fewer than 10 cans of Lysol
       you get an effective and environmentally friendly solution.
       [/quote]
       No, we don't deal with a particularly sickly population. This is
       just their "thing." Amy brags about being the "crazy cleaning
       lady." In the good news column, this morning Carol did say that
       she had been Germ-Xing herself all morning because she was
       waiting until after I left to do the chemical wipe-down. (The
       way they talk and act, you'd think our building was
       vermin-infested. It is not, by any stretch of the imagination.
       But they seem obsessed with disinfecting everything constantly.)
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