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#Post#: 17824--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Writer of Wrongs
Date: October 31, 2018, 3:55 pm
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--- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
>
> I wonder if there is is a reliable source talking about the
dangers of in-taking too much of the fumes? It may or may not be
helpful with these two. They may not realize how unhealthy the
fumes are... or maybe they refuse to listen to anything. But it
may be helpful with a manager or HR.
>
--- End Quote ---
I did some research online, and there doesn't seem to be a
consensus. One source indicates it's a clear source of imminent
danger; the next says it can cause temporary irritation but it
will subside, and it's all puppies and roses. I'm going to keep
mentioning it - when it happens, not every time I go in there,
because I don't want to be snowflakey - and will also suggest
some other, less irritating cleansers. Vinegar, CleanSmart …
here's hoping.
AND AND AND! My manager is actually hoping that our whole team
(3 people) can be on my current floor, instead of in the main
office. It would make sense for the nature of our job, and I
wouldn't be moved into the Spray Cloud Suite. ;D
#Post#: 17855--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: LifeOnPluto
Date: November 1, 2018, 5:26 am
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^ sounds like a great solution OP. However, if it does look like
you're moving to the main floor, I echo a previous poster's
suggestion of sending this problem to "Ask A Manager" - it's the
sort of question that's ideal for that site!
#Post#: 17858--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: STiG
Date: November 1, 2018, 6:36 am
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--- Quote from: HenrysMom link ---
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> I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to
use a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and
even with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a
lung every time.
>
--- End Quote ---
:o What she was doing, essentially, was creating chlorine gas.
Or mustard gas - used as chemical warfare in the first World
War! Highly, highly toxic - when chlorine gas comes into
contact with moist surfaces, like the inside of your lungs, it
forms a strong acid that eats away at the underlying surface.
#Post#: 17860--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Aleko
Date: November 1, 2018, 6:56 am
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--- Quote ---
> sounds like a great solution OP. However, if it does look like
you're moving to the main floor, I echo a previous poster's
suggestion of sending this problem to "Ask A Manager" - it's the
sort of question that's ideal for that site!
>
--- End Quote ---
I think she should do that anyway. Those crazy women are
creating a health hazard on their floor and the stairs, and
should be restrained from doing so by management.
#Post#: 17870--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Luci
Date: November 1, 2018, 9:25 am
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--- Quote from: STiG link ---
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> [quote author=HenrysMom link=topic=776.msg17810#msg17810
date=1541010149]
> I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to
use a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and
even with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a
lung every time.
>
--- End Quote ---
:o What she was doing, essentially, was creating chlorine gas.
Or mustard gas - used as chemical warfare in the first World
War! Highly, highly toxic - when chlorine gas comes into
contact with moist surfaces, like the inside of your lungs, it
forms a strong acid that eats away at the underlying surface.
[/quote]
My cousin was permanently damaged by doing this.
#Post#: 17898--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Lilac
Date: November 1, 2018, 1:40 pm
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This would be a dealbreaker for me. As a healthy (knock on
wood) person there is no way I would put up with such levels of
chemical exposure, even for a few minutes a few times a day.
They are poisoning the environment.
I would schedule a meeting with management and say there is an
issue that affects everyone and it needs to be resolved. (I
would collect empty Lysol cans for a period of time -- say, a
month -- from the office garbage to bolster my case.) I would
simply insist that my workplace ban the spraying of toxic
chemicals by untrained employees.
If there is a rational concern about germs (is a large share of
your client based comprised of ill / unvaccinated / otherewise
high-risk people?) then a third-party firm should be hired to
evaluate the risk and propose solutions. If there is no more
risk of germs than in any other communal zone -- school, retail
stores, restaurants, public transportation etc. -- then
employees are going to have to deal without chemicals. Those
who are excessively worried about germs can wear the sort of
disposable face masks that healthcare workers wear to avoid
contagion.
In addition to the masks, perhaps the office would purchase a
steam cleaner they only are about $50 -- according to a web
search, "steam cleaning kills 99.9 percent of bacteria, germs
and dust mites. This includes E. coli, Staph bacteria,
Salmonella and other micro-organisms, surface molds, bacteria,
viruses."
Let them steam away to their heart's content and spare
co-workers/the planet any toxins. I find this a good solution
in the home, too. For the price of fewer than 10 cans of Lysol
you get an effective and environmentally friendly solution.
#Post#: 17916--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: gramma dishes
Date: November 1, 2018, 3:14 pm
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--- Quote from: STiG link ---
>
> [quote author=HenrysMom link=topic=776.msg17810#msg17810
date=1541010149]
> I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to
use a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and
even with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a
lung every time.
>
--- End Quote ---
:o What she was doing, essentially, was creating chlorine gas.
Or mustard gas - used as chemical warfare in the first World
War! Highly, highly toxic - when chlorine gas comes into
contact with moist surfaces, like the inside of your lungs, it
forms a strong acid that eats away at the underlying surface.
[/quote]
Yes, most name brands of both bleach and ammonia have very
strict warnings in big print on their labels admonishing users
that combining the two is hazardous and should never be done.
#Post#: 17933--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Bada
Date: November 1, 2018, 4:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Lilac link ---
>
> (snip)
> Let them steam away to their heart's content and spare
co-workers/the planet any toxins. I find this a good solution
in the home, too. For the price of fewer than 10 cans of Lysol
you get an effective and environmentally friendly solution.
>
--- End Quote ---
The one lady told OP that she likes the smell. She's probably
not going to be willing to part with her "air freshener"
cleaning supplies.
#Post#: 17964--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: Lilac
Date: November 1, 2018, 7:47 pm
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Let her put a few drops of tea tree oil in the steamer.
Or, spray some Lysol on her face mask before donning it every
day.
#Post#: 17986--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
DIR By: HenrysMom
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:51 am
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--- Quote from: gramma dishes link ---
>
> [quote author=STiG link=topic=776.msg17858#msg17858
date=1541072164]
> [quote author=HenrysMom link=topic=776.msg17810#msg17810
date=1541010149]
> I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to
use a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and
even with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a
lung every time.
>
--- End Quote ---
:o What she was doing, essentially, was creating chlorine gas.
Or mustard gas - used as chemical warfare in the first World
War! Highly, highly toxic - when chlorine gas comes into
contact with moist surfaces, like the inside of your lungs, it
forms a strong acid that eats away at the underlying surface.
[/quote]
Yes, most name brands of both bleach and ammonia have very
strict warnings in big print on their labels admonishing users
that combining the two is hazardous and should never be done.
[/quote]
She most certainly was, but she claimed it was the only way to
kill the mildew that was a constant in her house, especially her
bathroom. (This was before “Scrubbing Bubbles” and ‘Tilex.”).
She would punish us kids and make us clean it and the last time
nearly got me - I was coughing for hours.
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