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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Hanna Date: October 30, 2018, 10:14 am
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This makes me >:( on your behalf.
I can tell you I would be making a real stink about this.
Here is what I would do.
1) Explain that this is a health risk for everyone, and that I
was not willing to expose myself to it on a daily basis. Ask
them to try some alternative methods to clean.
2) Discuss with my manager, "This is preventing me from being in
that room for hours each day and will eventually impact my
productivity."
3) Go to HR if the two above methods didn't work.
I wouldn't go to a doctor. It's common sense that people aren't
meant to breathe clouds of toxic chemicals like this.
#Post#: 17656--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Isisnin Date: October 30, 2018, 11:08 am
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For now, since you are not on that floor, just keep reiterating
in whatever way, that the fumes are problematic. E.g. if they
start wiping or spraying when you're there say "Those fumes are
bad for me. I'll clear out now, please wait a moment until I'm
gone.". If you are going to that office or floor and smell it,
wait until it is dissipated and let people know why your are
waiting. E.g. you pass someone going in as you leave, say "They
just sprayed and the fumes are strong. You may want to wait a
few moments until it is breathable." Or if you have a meeting
there but there are fumes, go back to your office and call them
and tell them you will be right there in a few minutes as you
have to wait for the fumes to die down. Or better, if a meeting
is booked on that floor, ask they it be held somewhere else due
to the fumes.
Since your office is not on that floor, to talk to HR or
management now might make you look like a demanding snowflake.
Better to just lay the groundwork. Part of that is also to speak
to your drs office about it now. They can help you come up more
solid medical terminology to verbally explain why its a problem.
Then, if you are transferred down there, or they transferred
near you, you can say "Great idea to have us all together, but
as you know, the fumes are problematic. Actually so much so,
that I talked to my dr about it in the past and while avoiding
the fumes has been difficult it's been tolerable. But actually
being on the floor with the fumes means the fumes will not be
avoidable. We are going to have to come up with something else."
Then if you have to, get the medical note.
This way you are being a teamplayer, not a primadonna, but you
are also laying the groundwork to draw the line.
#Post#: 17660--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: DaDancingPsych Date: October 30, 2018, 11:27 am
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I wonder if there is is a reliable source talking about the
dangers of in-taking too much of the fumes? It may or may not be
helpful with these two. They may not realize how unhealthy the
fumes are... or maybe they refuse to listen to anything. But it
may be helpful with a manager or HR.
#Post#: 17682--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: October 30, 2018, 2:15 pm
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[quote author=Hanna link=topic=776.msg17650#msg17650
date=1540912444]
This makes me >:( on your behalf.
I can tell you I would be making a real stink about this.
Here is what I would do.
1) Explain that this is a health risk for everyone, and that I
was not willing to expose myself to it on a daily basis. Ask
them to try some alternative methods to clean.
2) Discuss with my manager, "This is preventing me from being in
that room for hours each day and will eventually impact my
productivity."
3) Go to HR if the two above methods didn't work.
I wouldn't go to a doctor. It's common sense that people aren't
meant to breathe clouds of toxic chemicals like this.
[/quote]
Or,
4) Escalate the issue and see a doctor if options 1 through 3
don't work, because I have little faith in other people's common
sense.
#Post#: 17686--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Luci Date: October 30, 2018, 2:32 pm
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I just searched for "inhaling Lysol fumes" and found many
references. Lysol is used for huffing and is toxic to people in
large quantities. Years ago I had to clean a tent that had been
in storage and the fumes just spraying the walls for a few
minutes made me ill. If the women are the type who don’t believe
anything I would print all the references for them and keep
going up the ladder and to the health deptment with the
information. The county health department did legally take care
of a situation a dear friend was involved in.Your body is
telling you something.
(My stepmother refused to believe that cigarettes caused health
problems. Her first husband died of lung cancer, as she did
later. She also said no one dies from asthma.)
#Post#: 17771--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Chez Miriam Date: October 31, 2018, 9:28 am
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[quote author=Luci link=topic=776.msg17686#msg17686
date=1540927932]
I just searched for "inhaling Lysol fumes" and found many
references. Lysol is used for huffing and is toxic to people in
large quantities. Years ago I had to clean a tent that had been
in storage and the fumes just spraying the walls for a few
minutes made me ill. If the women are the type who don’t believe
anything I would print all the references for them and keep
going up the ladder and to the health deptment with the
information. The county health department did legally take care
of a situation a dear friend was involved in.Your body is
telling you something.
(My stepmother refused to believe that cigarettes caused health
problems. Her first husband died of lung cancer, as she did
later. She also said no one dies from asthma.)
[/quote]
It's possible a workplace will take more note of the use of
Lysol as an intoxicant? It's worth some looking into, as most
workplaces don't want their employees high!
#Post#: 17776--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Bada Date: October 31, 2018, 10:12 am
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I saw this on FB today. Apparently overuse of Lysol is funny
??? [attachimg=1]
(In case the image doesn't display, it says:
"It's flu season...if you so much as hiccup near me...I'll mace
you with Lysol" )
#Post#: 17779--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Hanna Date: October 31, 2018, 10:32 am
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[quote author=pierrotlunaire0 link=topic=776.msg17682#msg17682
date=1540926904]
[quote author=Hanna link=topic=776.msg17650#msg17650
date=1540912444]
This makes me >:( on your behalf.
I can tell you I would be making a real stink about this.
Here is what I would do.
1) Explain that this is a health risk for everyone, and that I
was not willing to expose myself to it on a daily basis. Ask
them to try some alternative methods to clean.
2) Discuss with my manager, "This is preventing me from being in
that room for hours each day and will eventually impact my
productivity."
3) Go to HR if the two above methods didn't work.
I wouldn't go to a doctor. It's common sense that people aren't
meant to breathe clouds of toxic chemicals like this.
[/quote]
Or,
4) Escalate the issue and see a doctor if options 1 through 3
don't work, because I have little faith in other people's common
sense.
[/quote]
My next step if coworkers, manager and HR all refused to take
action would be a report to OSHA.
This is not a personal medical issue. OP shouldn't have to make
an appointment (which in my area can take months) and
potentially pay a copay to ask her Doctor to write a note prove
that these chemicals are toxic for humans to breathe.
#Post#: 17810--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: HenrysMom Date: October 31, 2018, 1:22 pm
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I can certainly understand how you feel - my mother used to use
a combo of bleach and ammonia to clean her bathroom, and even
with open windows, that stuff would cause me to cough up a lung
every time.
I think you could casually mention to your boss next time you go
over there something like “Golly, those in the main office are
spraying Lysol to toxic levels.” Because what they’re doing is
actually causing a health hazard for innocent people who don’t
ask to be bombarded with toxic chemicals.
#Post#: 17817--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: TeamBhakta Date: October 31, 2018, 2:40 pm
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I would be pulling the "reasonable accommodation" card in HR's
office real fast. Spraying that stuff constantly is horrible
>:(
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