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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: lmyrs Date: October 29, 2018, 4:11 pm
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I'm not sure what I would do in your situation because you don't
know if the bosses will try to move you. If they don't want to
move you, then it seems kind of "tattle tale" to preemptively
tell them that you can't be moved because of the Lysol. If you
do go proactively, they might think, "What would we move her?
What a weird thing to mention." On the other hand, if they DO
decide to move you, then you have to object after the fact and
that's not great either. But, as I think on it, I think it would
be preferable to object after the fact. It's close though.
I think that the part of me that thinks you should object
proactively is actually less about what's good for you and more
about what's good for all the other poor people on that floor.
If it were me, I really would be going proactively just to
"tattle" because I really, really think that Amy is wrong here.
But, it's not your job to fix that problem for others. And it
wouldn't be mine either. I hope that if it is causing problems
for others that they feel empowered enough to come forward with
their concerns.
#Post#: 17584--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: STiG Date: October 29, 2018, 7:16 pm
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The only person who is going to advocate for you is YOU. I feel
strongly that you should talk to management now. Maybe start
with, 'Have you given any thought to moving me over to X floor,
with the reorg?' And if they say that might be in the plans,
you respond with, 'Well, I need to let you know that there may
be a health and safety issue for me with that.' And explain.
Then management has an opportunity to decide how best to manage
the issue. Whether it is to not move you to that area or it is
to tell Amy and Carol to knock it off. Not your problem. As
long as you don't keep getting exposed to that crap.
Absolutely couch it in health and safety language. Because
that's exactly what it is. Your health and your safety.
#Post#: 17585--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Dazi Date: October 29, 2018, 7:51 pm
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You do not need to have respiratory issues or even an allergy to
have a reaction to an aerosol chemical. You can have chemical
sensitivities to anything, but Lysol is an absurdly common one.
Many people are allergic or sensitive to the perfumes in it, and
Lysol is 70% denatured ethanol with a high VOC rating (nearly
1200 ppm). Anything with a rating over 500 ppm is acknowledged
as potentially problematic for those with chemical sensitivities
and considered a health risk.
It's making you ill. Period. Get a note from your doctor if need
be.
#Post#: 17593--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: wonderfullyanonymous Date: October 29, 2018, 8:32 pm
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You need to speak to your Dr. ASAP, and get a Dr. to give you
information regarding the side affects so they have to quit
spraying that stuff like that. Those chemicals are not good for
anyone, and if they are using it that liberally, someone is
going to get sick from them. Lung problems are not fun.
#Post#: 17602--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: TootsNYC Date: October 29, 2018, 8:57 pm
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are they SPRAYING that crap?
Somehow I thought they were just washing with a solution.
I think you should bring it up now, because you still go in that
area from time to time, and it's not safe even if they don't
move you over there.
In some industries, it would be an OSHA issue.
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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Dazi Date: October 29, 2018, 9:19 pm
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=776.msg17602#msg17602
date=1540864654]
are they SPRAYING that crap?
Somehow I thought they were just washing with a solution.
I think you should bring it up now, because you still go in that
area from time to time, and it's not safe even if they don't
move you over there.
In some industries, it would be an OSHA issue.
[/quote]
Even the wipes are high VOC. I think most brands still come in
around 1000ppm...over 500ppm is considered a health risk.
#Post#: 17617--------------------------------------------------
Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Aleko Date: October 30, 2018, 2:06 am
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Get a note from your doctor by all means, but I think you need
to stress that this is not just about you. You are just the
canary in the mine: because you have an instant reaction to
these fumes you are constantly aware just how much poison - and
it is poison - these crazy women are spraying around the
workplace, which everyone is being forced to breathe, absorb
through their skin, and even ingest, on a daily basis. Don't let
it be about you.
(Presumably Amy is as lavish with the Lysol in her own home.
It's tragic to think of her conscientiously destroying her
children's chances of developing a functional immune system;
those are going to be some very sickly people.)
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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: Writer of Wrongs Date: October 30, 2018, 7:47 am
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=776.msg17602#msg17602
date=1540864654]
are they SPRAYING that crap?
Somehow I thought they were just washing with a solution.
I think you should bring it up now, because you still go in that
area from time to time, and it's not safe even if they don't
move you over there.
In some industries, it would be an OSHA issue.
[/quote]
TootsNYC: Yep. They use Lysol and Clorox wipes on a daily+
basis, but if anyone coughs, has a cold or goes home sick, or a
customer comes in with body odor, they walk through spraying a
cloud of the aerosol Lysol spray.
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=776.msg17617#msg17617
date=1540883198]
Get a note from your doctor by all means, but I think you need
to stress that this is not just about you. You are just the
canary in the mine: because you have an instant reaction to
these fumes you are constantly aware just how much poison - and
it is poison - these crazy women are spraying around the
workplace, which everyone is being forced to breathe, absorb
through their skin, and even ingest, on a daily basis. Don't let
it be about you.
(Presumably Amy is as lavish with the Lysol in her own home.
It's tragic to think of her conscientiously destroying her
children's chances of developing a functional immune system;
those are going to be some very sickly people.)
[/quote]
A colleague at a previous job was like this. She wiped
everything with Clorox wipes constantly and couldn't understand
why she and her kids got sick every time a "bug" went around.
(Her husband was a cop and was exposed to a lot of stuff at
work, so his immune system remained strong.) But Amy's mom was a
nurse, so she's utterly convinced she knows everything about
illness and health care. ::)
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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: STiG Date: October 30, 2018, 9:05 am
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A friend sent me this message yesterday:
I'm not saying your perfume is too strong. I'm just saying the
canary was alive before you got here.
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Re: It's really NOT funny when I can't breathe... more info #7
By: lmyrs Date: October 30, 2018, 9:41 am
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They spray clouds of Lysol around the office for body odor!!
They do not understand how germs work at all.
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