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       #Post#: 17845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: lakey Date: October 31, 2018, 9:05 pm
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       I tend to not get many trick or treaters because a good share of
       my neighbors are older, and there aren't a lot of kids on my
       block. This year I got 35, so that is quite a few for me. The
       kids were all very polite and said thank you. I was  a bit
       surprised at how fast some cars were driving past my house
       during trick or treat hours. This is a residential neighborhood
       and they were going quite a bit faster than they're supposed to
       anyway, much less when you know there are kids out walking.
       #Post#: 17850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: CrazyCatLady Date: October 31, 2018, 10:21 pm
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       I'm in NYC, but a very suburban borough.  Around here we just
       see general trick or treating - some areas more than others.  A
       friend who lives only a few miles away gets nobody, but my block
       gets large waves of kids over the whole afternoon.  I do find
       that kids seem to be lazier than Sis and I were as kids - we
       never let stairs or other impediments to front doors deter us,
       but kids these days don't like to climb the porch steps to my
       front door.  They stand below, in the driveway and hold their
       bags open, asking that I drop the candy.  That was a few years
       ago, though.  Today the kids climbed the stairs.  I refilled my
       treating bowl 4 times. (And the cat, who thinks he needs to
       explore the whole world, only escaped twice.)
       People do have parties, but generally on the weekend.  And now
       some weirdo somewhere around here is setting off fireworks.
       Just the noisy ones.
       #Post#: 17874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Thitpualso Date: November 1, 2018, 10:39 am
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       I live in a nice neighborhood in Brooklyn.  Most kids here don’t
       go door to door after dark because many houses here have quite
       high stoops.  Going up and down ten or more steps over and over
       while wearing unfamiliar clothes can be a chore.  Instead, in
       the late afternoon, they visit merchants on commercial streets
       then go home for an early dinner before the evening parade.
       The merchants can provide unconventional treats.  The bagel shop
       gives bagels and the Chinese restaurant hands out fortune
       cookies.  A doughnut shop offers doughnut holes (think Tim
       Bites)
       The parade was good but there weren’t as many bands as usual.
       It was a good Halloween but not a special one.
       #Post#: 17876--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Chez Miriam Date: November 1, 2018, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=Irked Purist link=topic=750.msg17811#msg17811
       date=1541010193]
       Modern Trick-or-Treating may have been greatly influenced and
       codified by how it's done in the USA, but it's by no means
       'simply cribbed from' there. It developed in its modern form
       from the (mainly Scots, still-extant) practice of guising,
       general British mumming traditions (clock the similarities to
       Wassailing), the mediaeval Soul Cake custom, and possibly back
       further to Celtic religious remembrances.
       The ingredients of costumes, mischief, occultism,
       ghosts/remembering the dead, and door-to-door requesting of
       small edible gifts were all in place and are just as much a part
       of traditional UK folk practices as they are North American
       ones. Even carved jack o'lanterns were an import to the USA-
       originally turnips or mangold-wurzels.
       I don't love commercial modern Hallowe'en because I'm not one
       for cheap tat and, on principle, I dislike scary things being
       confined to one month a year. Spook up year round, please!
       Soul-caking or All Hallows' doesn't apply as I'm not a
       Christian, I can't claim any Scottish or Irish background to
       legitimise my guising, and I'm not in the West Country where
       things like Punkie Night are still observed. Plus I don't have
       any youngsters who are desperate to trick-or-treat. So my
       evening will be indoors and fairly quiet; I have my own
       observances.
       But it's a shame to see our own folk traditions dismissed
       wholesale. Anyone who is nostalgic for a less
       orange-and-black-tat-saturated time of year could do worse than
       reading up on the precursors of modern Hallowe'en and maybe
       bringing some of them back if they're up for it. Traditions can
       be rediscovered and hold strong if they provide an important
       community focus- or are merely sufficiently fun.
       Oddly, I went most of my life without seeing a guy- even going
       to big, official Scouts' bonfire nights- and thought they were a
       thing of the past, but started seeing them every year when I
       moved to my current area. There's not masses but there are
       community bonfire celebrations of all sizes and they're still a
       part of those.
       [/quote]
       Every time my husband says that Hallowe'en is a US import, I
       think "doesn't my childhood count?".  I now tell him *every
       single time* that we used to celebrate Hallowe'en, so it wasn't
       an imported thing where I grew up [halfway between Manchester
       and Birmingham].  Ah, the soaking wet clothes from apple
       bobbing. ;) ;D
       I do like carving pumpkins, though; so much easier than the
       turnips* I carved as a child!
       * aka "swedes" to other parts of the UK. ::)
       #Post#: 17880--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 1, 2018, 11:22 am
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       My trick-or-treaters were disappointing this year.
       Year 1: 30 kids
       Year 2: 9 kids during the first hour (I had to leave during the
       second hour, so I am not sure how many helped themselves to
       treats)
       Year 3: 5 kids
       I answered the door only three times. The minimal effort that I
       put in was not even worth it. The temperature was nice, but it
       had rained beforehand.
       However, a friend has alerted me to the teal pumpkin campaign
       were you label yourself as a home that is giving
       allergy-friendly treats (ie. small toys.) They have a website
       where you can list your address, so I think I may do that next
       year. It may or may not attract additional kids, but maybe I can
       help someone have a special night!
       #Post#: 17882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Chez Miriam Date: November 1, 2018, 11:30 am
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=750.msg17880#msg17880
       date=1541089347]
       My trick-or-treaters were disappointing this year.
       Year 1: 30 kids
       Year 2: 9 kids during the first hour (I had to leave during the
       second hour, so I am not sure how many helped themselves to
       treats)
       Year 3: 5 kids
       I answered the door only three times. The minimal effort that I
       put in was not even worth it. The temperature was nice, but it
       had rained beforehand.
       However, a friend has alerted me to the teal pumpkin campaign
       were you label yourself as a home that is giving
       allergy-friendly treats (ie. small toys.) They have a website
       where you can list your address, so I think I may do that next
       year. It may or may not attract additional kids, but maybe I can
       help someone have a special night!
       [/quote]
       That sounds like a brilliant idea, and kind of you to make an
       effort on behalf of kids who might otherwise miss out.
       [emoji169]
       #Post#: 17889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 1, 2018, 12:44 pm
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       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=750.msg17882#msg17882
       date=1541089821]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=750.msg17880#msg17880
       date=1541089347]
       My trick-or-treaters were disappointing this year.
       Year 1: 30 kids
       Year 2: 9 kids during the first hour (I had to leave during the
       second hour, so I am not sure how many helped themselves to
       treats)
       Year 3: 5 kids
       I answered the door only three times. The minimal effort that I
       put in was not even worth it. The temperature was nice, but it
       had rained beforehand.
       However, a friend has alerted me to the teal pumpkin campaign
       were you label yourself as a home that is giving
       allergy-friendly treats (ie. small toys.) They have a website
       where you can list your address, so I think I may do that next
       year. It may or may not attract additional kids, but maybe I can
       help someone have a special night!
       [/quote]
       That sounds like a brilliant idea, and kind of you to make an
       effort on behalf of kids who might otherwise miss out.
       [emoji169]
       [/quote]
       I think the campaign is amazing, too! If the kids won't take my
       candy, maybe they will come for the other treats!!!
       #Post#: 17908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Amara Date: November 1, 2018, 2:49 pm
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       I have no children so have never participated in Halloween once
       I got out of childhood myself. I actually loathe the 'holiday"
       so it wouldn't occur to me to have candy. But . . . if I did
       want to participate I would buy some rolls of dimes and nickels
       and hand those out instead.
       #Post#: 17920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Aleko Date: November 1, 2018, 3:25 pm
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       Trick-or-treating has been officially discouraged in my
       neighbourhood for 15 years or so now, so we don't get many. When
       it was commonplace, I used to stock up on clementines or
       tangerines, and would hand them out beaming like Lady Bountiful,
       and watch their little faces go 'Ewww! Fruit! Where are the
       Snickers bars?' Suck it up kiddo, I won't help you get Type 2
       diabetes.
       Sad, really; in my childhood when my mother filled our Christmas
       stockings (which were our ordinary knee socks, not huge
       sock-shaped cloth bags like now) she always put a clementine in
       the toe, and that was a real treat then.
       #Post#: 17922--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Halloween
       By: Chez Miriam Date: November 1, 2018, 3:34 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=750.msg17920#msg17920
       date=1541103942]
       Trick-or-treating has been officially discouraged in my
       neighbourhood for 15 years or so now, so we don't get many. When
       it was commonplace, I used to stock up on clementines or
       tangerines, and would hand them out beaming like Lady Bountiful,
       and watch their little faces go 'Ewww! Fruit! Where are the
       Snickers bars?' Suck it up kiddo, I won't help you get Type 2
       diabetes.
       Sad, really; in my childhood when my mother filled our Christmas
       stockings (which were our ordinary knee socks, not huge
       sock-shaped cloth bags like now) she always put a clementine in
       the toe, and that was a real treat then.
       [/quote]
       I don't think it's sad: we had very little, but never realised
       that at the time.  A clementine was an immense treat - only
       available over the Christmas period, so we really appreciated
       them...
       The walnuts?  Yeah, not so much! ;) ;D
       I can now crack walnuts, but no chance of my managing to get
       them apart as a nipper.  And they always tasted bitter/rancid
       (to me at least).
       I sometimes feel a little sorry for some of the youngsters now:
       the expectations seem a lot higher, and having so many toys make
       it less likely that a treasured memory nearly 50 years later
       will be the "zoo"* made by Granddad and painted by Mum.
       * It was a slightly-odd shaped chipboard box, with a giraffe on
       one side and an elephant on the other, and I had a few
       not-to-scale plastic zoo animals.  One of my abiding memories of
       being a small child.
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