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       #Post#: 16028--------------------------------------------------
       Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and reclining)
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: October 12, 2018, 10:51 pm
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       Hi all,
       I recently flew a seven hour, mostly daylight flight, and
       encountered a couple of instances of annoying (to me) behaviour
       from my fellow passengers. I'm curious to know what you think,
       whether that behaviour was rude, and whether I handled it
       correctly.
       1) The young woman seated next to me spent the entire flight
       watching movies and listening to music, with the volume on her
       IFE system cranked up to maximum. However, she wasn't actually
       wearing her headphones! She just had them draped around her
       neck. This meant that I could hear everything - a constant,
       tinny noise. It was so audible that even the person seated on my
       other side could hear everything this lady was listening to.
       After awhile, I asked her if she could turn down her volume -
       which she did, rather grudgingly, and only by a couple of
       notches. I could still hear the tinny buzz coming from her
       headphones around her neck, but it wasn't quite as bad as
       before. The only way to avoid the noise altogether was to wear
       my own headphones.
       On reflection, perhaps I should have simply asked if she could
       WEAR her headphones properly - but maybe that would have been
       rude?
       2) Immediately after take off, the man seated in front of me
       reclined his seat to the fullest extent possible, and kept it
       that way for the entire seven flight (except the 20 minutes
       during meal service). He didn't sleep - just spent the entire
       flight laughing at whatever movies he was watching. As noted
       above, this was for the most part a daytime flight, and the
       cabin lights were not dimmed or anything.
       Even though I found this personally annoying, I felt his actions
       weren't technically rude (ie passengers have a perfect right to
       recline their seats if they wish!), and I had no standing to say
       anything, such as asking him to put his seat up a little.
       What do you guys think? What would you have done?
       #Post#: 16033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: Amanita
       Date: October 13, 2018, 1:16 am
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       I think the first lady was definitely rude, she should have been
       wearing her headphones instead of whatever she was trying to do,
       leaving them hanging around her neck.
       #Post#: 16034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: lmyrs
       Date: October 13, 2018, 3:09 am
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       I think the first lady was rude and the second guy was fine.
       #Post#: 16038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: Venus193
       Date: October 13, 2018, 8:11 am
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       I think the man was also somewhat rude in the sense that he did
       not ask whether this bothered you.  However c I think it is high
       time airlines consider redesigningtheir seating to betted deal
       with people who insist on reclining through the entire flight.
       #Post#: 16046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: mime
       Date: October 13, 2018, 9:14 am
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       I agree with Venus on this. The guy was not rude, but not nice.
       I'd like to see airlines build a seat that slides forward as it
       reclines (like space-saving LaZBoys), so the person reclining is
       the one losing personal space, not the person behind them.
       #Post#: 16047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: lakey
       Date: October 13, 2018, 10:19 am
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       As others have said, the lady was rude to not use her
       headphones. Why does she think they are provided? She reminds me
       of people who talk in a movie theater. Other people don't want
       to have to listen to her noise. The other guy was more
       thoughtless. The seats have the ability to recline so passengers
       feel that it is okay to use that option. Many people who fly a
       lot realize that the space in economy is so tight that something
       like reclining makes it uncomfortable for others. Another
       commenter's suggestion that seats be designed to move forward
       when they are reclined is smart. I suspect that as planes age,
       things like seating are replaced. That would be a good time to
       do it.
       #Post#: 16049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: Thitpualso
       Date: October 13, 2018, 10:48 am
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       I think both were perhaps not technically rude but selfish.
       An airplane is a severely constricted place.  People must
       consider the comfort of those around them more than their
       personal preferences.
       #Post#: 16061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: GardenGal
       Date: October 13, 2018, 4:05 pm
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       The gal not wearing her headphones was rude, and I would have
       asked her to turn the sound way down or put the headphones on as
       soon as the noise bothered me.
       Unfortunately, I don't think the reclining gent was rude, he was
       making legitimate use of the feature of his seat.  It's the
       airlines' fault that you don't have decent room when the seat in
       front of you reclines.  I know that I've been on flights where
       all I wanted to do was sleep or rest the entire way, and it
       never would occur to me not to do that because the person behind
       me would be short of space.  That's a problem to bring up with
       the airline.
       #Post#: 16098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: Rho
       Date: October 13, 2018, 10:31 pm
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       The man was rude and thoughtless and should be glad he wasn't in
       front of ME.  I use the airplane table attached to the seat in
       front of me to either hold a cup of coffee beyond meal service
       or prop up a magazine or spread out my current needlepoint
       project.  If someone were reclining I don't just lose space--I
       lose the table.
       #Post#: 16122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Possible rudeness on the aeroplane (headphones and
       reclining)
   DIR By: malfoyfan13
       Date: October 14, 2018, 1:29 pm
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       I think the female was rude and maybe a flight attendant should
       have spoken to her about the headphones.
       As for the reclining seats: I think airlines should have seats
       that DON'T recline, at least in coach.  I have a problem with
       claustrophobia and the few times I've been on a plane in the
       last 20 years, I always feel panicky when the person in front of
       me reclines.  There's nothing I can do: since the seats recline,
       the person is allowed to do that, it just makes me nuts.  I
       agree with the person who says the airlines should have seats
       that move forward as the seat reclines so the person losing
       space is the recliner.  This issue is part of why I rarely
       travel/fly.
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