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       #Post#: 15487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: honeybee42
       Date: October 5, 2018, 6:23 pm
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       Also, if it's a fast casual chain, unless they're touting new
       menu items, I may well *have* tasted it before on a prior visit.
       
       At the cafeteria at work, all the condiments except for mayo are
       in an area beyond the cash register where one can also get
       napkins and disposable flatware.  (The mayo used to be dispensed
       in the same area, but it kept clogging.)  So there's no one to
       care if you take 1 or 7 salt packets (or pepper) although things
       might get testy if you take too many little cups of ketchup or
       mustard. but that's only because after two you may be holding up
       other people from getting their own ketchup and/or mustard.
       #Post#: 15492--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: MOM21SON
       Date: October 5, 2018, 8:30 pm
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       I was invited to a Seder dinner once.  During the meal, the host
       said, "This really needs salt."  He husband went on a nuts,
       screaming that no salt is needed and how rude she was to even
       suggest it.  He also screamed at her for offering me a beer.  It
       seems it was his last one.  Thankfully I declined.  they are no
       longer married.
       #Post#: 15493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: October 5, 2018, 8:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: MOM21SON link ---
       >
       > I was invited to a Seder dinner once.  During the meal, the
       host said, "This really needs salt."  He husband went on a nuts,
       screaming that no salt is needed and how rude she was to even
       suggest it.  He also screamed at her for offering me a beer.  It
       seems it was his last one.  Thankfully I declined.  they are no
       longer married.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yikes!   :o
       Sounds like an awkward and thoroughly uncomfortable evening for
       everyone!
       #Post#: 15505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: October 5, 2018, 11:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: lmyrs link ---
       >
       > Salting your food before tasting it is rude. I don't think a
       lot of people care, but some people do.
       >
       > That said, you have your reasons for knowing that you will
       want salt. To do it politely, take a quick taste, and ask for
       salt. They may still get PA, but that's not your problem to
       solve or care about. No explanation needed. If it's problematic
       at a particular place and you don't want to deal with it, go
       somewhere else. Explanations aren't going to make a difference.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't want to have to wait the time it takes to catch the
       server's attention, get them to come over, and then wait for
       them to bring back the salt.
       The food is here and it's getting cold!
       I think NPFWife should say, when she orders, "I tend to want to
       salt my food; would you bring the salt and pepper in case it
       turns out I need it?" if it's not already on the table.
       Don't make it about that food particularly--make it about the
       idea that the table isn't set properly if the salt and pepper
       are not on the table already.
       (And don't start me about the whole "giving the control of the
       pepper over to someone else's hand" crap. This is MY food. *I*
       am the one who will be eating it.)
       #Post#: 15506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: October 5, 2018, 11:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: lmyrs link ---
       >
       > I trust that the enthusiasm to disregard established etiquette
       rules within this thread apply to all established etiquette
       rules.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ooh, I think this is kind of a snotty comment.
       #Post#: 15508--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: browzer11
       Date: October 5, 2018, 11:32 pm
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       "I trust that the enthusiasm to disregard established etiquette
       rules within this thread apply to all established etiquette
       rules.".
       To be honest, try as I might, I cannot understand that comment.
       #Post#: 15510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: October 5, 2018, 11:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: browzer11 link ---
       >
       > "I trust that the enthusiasm to disregard established
       etiquette rules within this thread apply to all established
       etiquette rules.".
       >
       > To be honest, try as I might, I cannot understand that
       comment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You need the "snarky" font.
       "If you're all going to say this rule doesn't count, then surely
       you think none of the rules count."
       #Post#: 15511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: peony
       Date: October 5, 2018, 11:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: JeanFromBNA link ---
       >
       > [quote author=lmyrs link=topic=720.msg15251#msg15251
       date=1538583155]
       > Salting your food before tasting it is rude. I don't think a
       lot of people care, but some people do.
       >
       > That said, you have your reasons for knowing that you will
       want salt. To do it politely, take a quick taste, and ask for
       salt. They may still get PA, but that's not your problem to
       solve or care about. No explanation needed. If it's problematic
       at a particular place and you don't want to deal with it, go
       somewhere else. Explanations aren't going to make a difference.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's rude if you're at someone's home, or are someone's guest.
       It's not rude in a commercial establishment where you have paid
       for the food.
       [/quote]
       I don't think it's rude in any case. People like things the way
       they like them, and it's possible to know beforehand how you
       want your food to taste. I myself am offended by chefs who think
       their cooking is so perfect that no one should dare to alter it
       to suit themselves. When you come to dinner at my house, please
       use all the condiments and seasonings you want even if you don't
       taste it beforehand. I want my guests to enjoy their food and be
       happy. It would be insufferable of me to pretend I know  better
       than they do how they would like their meal to taste.
       Sorry for going on like that. I've felt this way for some time,
       and it just sort of came out all at once in this post.
       #Post#: 15515--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: shadowfox79
       Date: October 6, 2018, 2:59 am
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       This is reminding me of an episode of "Come Dine With Me" when
       one of the guests brought his own bottle of salad cream and
       slathered his meal with it, much to the annoyance of the host
       who took the bottle and threw it away.
       I can sort of see the problem with that, but to be honest, if
       someone can only eat food when it's covered in salad cream
       nothing else is going to make them happy so you may as well let
       them get on with it. Assuming that they'll love your
       painstakingly cooked meal if they just try it first is likely to
       end in tears.
       On the salt subject, I always have black pepper without trying
       the food first so I don't think salt is any different. I already
       know I like my food more peppery than a chef is likely to do it
       and I expect it works the same with salt.
       #Post#: 15519--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How In-salt-ing
   DIR By: Pattycake
       Date: October 6, 2018, 8:23 am
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       Rules of etiquette are not etched in stone, and if they don't
       suit most people, they will change, just like rules for sports
       do. Most rules of etiquette were made so that people didn't feel
       out of place, they would know what the customary way of doing
       things was, or so that guests were made to feel welcome. Someone
       previously mentioned that they thought the salt rule came in
       around the 1940's - why? Probably some chef or cook got their
       nose out of joint about some guest salting before tasting, and
       what started as someone's house rule got spread about until a
       former Miss Manners type codified it in a manners book. So now
       common sense is just taking over again - let people use salt if
       they want, when they want. It hardly means that people are
       advocating tossing all etiquette just because they disagree with
       one rule.
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