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       #Post#: 14801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: Kimberami
       Date: September 28, 2018, 10:13 pm
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       I was at an aquarium with my family several months ago. While we
       were inside of the underwater exhibit, a little boy started
       yelling "Hey Mom" over and over again. Because we had been
       walking in a tour group, I had heard this little boy being
       extremely loud throughout the aquarium. Inside of the underwater
       exhibit, his yelling was excruciating. I finally said "Shhh" to
       him. He looked at me and then yelled "Hey Mom" again. Then about
       8 people all said "SHH" at the exact same time. I don't know
       anything about this child, but eventually the group had had
       enough.
       A baseball game is a place where you would expect to hear a lot
       of noise. I didn't find the little girl especially annoying, but
       I didn't listen to her yelling for hours and hours. The lady
       didn't seem extremely mean to me, but I'm not a little girl. The
       lady couldn't have had any idea that the child had any sort of
       medical issue. When we are sharing space with other people we
       have to find a happy medium so that everyone gets to have all of
       their needs and some of their wants fulfilled. What if the
       situation involves two people with special needs? Whose need
       should be accommodated? We know nothing about this woman. She
       could have a condition that makes it impossible to refrain from
       saying exactly what is on her mind.
       My honest opinion is that we have witnessed a woman who has hit
       the end of her rope and snapped. Was she rude? Sure. We are only
       getting a very small slice of this incident. I certainly don't
       think that this situation is nearly the big flipping hairy deal
       that the mom and the media are making it out to be. I wonder if
       the big fuss is making the girl feel worse about the situation
       than she felt at the time.
       #Post#: 14809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: September 29, 2018, 1:44 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > If it's supposed to "take a village" to raise a child, then
       any adult should be able to politely ask for a modification in
       behavior.
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually they should be able to do a whole lot more than that.
       In the African cultures where that phrase (or phrases amounting
       to it) is used, it means that all the adults in the community
       have the responsibility not merely to look out for all children
       but also to instruct, rebuke and discipline them as necessary,
       as if they were their own. A Motswana or Kikuyu adult who saw a
       child behaving badly wouldn't hesitate to tell them in no
       uncertain manner to stop, and if the child didn't stop, to scold
       and even physically punish them.
       If a parent doesn't want anyone else to rebuke or restrain their
       special little darling, so be it - but they are certainly not
       entitled to expect anyone else to help and protect them on the
       grounds that "it takes . . . etc."
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       > The lady couldn't have had any idea that the child had any
       sort of medical issue. When we are sharing space with other
       people we have to find a happy medium so that everyone gets to
       have all of their needs and some of their wants fulfilled. What
       if the situation involves two people with special needs? Whose
       need should be accommodated? We know nothing about this woman.
       She could have a condition that makes it impossible to refrain
       from saying exactly what is on her mind.
       --- End Quote ---
       True. Or an auditory condition that made the specific pitch of
       the child's squeals actually painful.
       #Post#: 14815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: September 29, 2018, 8:58 am
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       I think the woman said one word.  "Enough."
       I don't think she was rude.  There was no way the woman  could
       possibly have known this child had some sort of disability.  It
       certainly isn't obvious.  And if she does, it is her parents
       responsibility to teach her that certain types of behavior can
       indeed be quite annoying or even painful for others, so she
       should limit that kind of behavior.
       She did not (as popularly reported) burst into a torrent of
       tears.  She looked sad and puzzled.  That's all.  The parents
       are making a huge HUGE issue out of not much substance.
       #Post#: 14993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: bopper
       Date: October 1, 2018, 1:45 pm
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       Once we went to a Mets game. There were two people together
       right behind us. ...i am guessing an older mother and and older
       son. The mom would yells something, but in the realm of general
       cheering. But then the son was like "SHUT UP, MA! NOBODY WANTS
       TO HEAR THAT, MA! YOU GOT TO SHUT UP" and so on....but yelling
       right behind us in our ears.
       It was reallllly annoying. We did "the looks"...didn't work.
       But we didn't think that confronting them would be the way to
       go...so we asked an Usher...pointed out the situation.  THey
       moved us to other (better) seats.
       I don't know if the person yelling "enough" had had it with the
       volume, the repetition, the high frequency tone...I don't know
       if they had asked before ...i always start with "Hey buddy...you
       are yelling in my ear and it hurts. Could you be quieter?
       I also wonder that if they kid knows she is annoying...is she
       annoying?
       #Post#: 14998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: October 1, 2018, 2:32 pm
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       I thought the kid figured out the problem and handled it just
       fine.  I don't understand why the parents seem to want to imply
       she's helpless and can't take care of herself in these
       situations.  Apparently something she was doing was seriously
       annoying the woman in front  of her.  Stuff happens.  Life goes
       on.  The woman wanted her to stop and she did.  So what's the
       problem?
       #Post#: 15264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: DCGirl
       Date: October 3, 2018, 12:59 pm
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       I'm a big baseball fan and go to at least every other week
       during the season, and I have to say that even in an environment
       where cheering is expected my husband and I have on occasion
       been tortured by a child who screams for an entire game.
       There's a right way to cheer for your team and a wrong way, and
       a constant screaming is wrong.
       If you want your child to grow up to be a baseball fan, you need
       to talk about how to be a good baseball fan, and that includes
       cheering at the appropriate times.  With that said, there's a
       nice way to ask someone to quiet down a bit and a not-nice way.
       I can't tell from the news coverage if the woman had already
       asked nicely and finally snapped or what.  A couple of years
       ago, DH and I were at a game seated near parents who had brought
       a shrieker.  Another fan finally leaned over and told the
       parents they'd better ice the kid's vocal chords when they got
       home to prevent permanent damage.  That was not nice (but a part
       of me was cheering a little on the inside).
       #Post#: 15274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Special Needs Child told to stop cheering
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: October 3, 2018, 2:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: DCGirl link ---
       >
       > ...  A couple of years ago, DH and I were at a game seated
       near parents who had brought a shrieker.  Another fan finally
       leaned over and told the parents they'd better ice the kid's
       vocal chords when they got home to prevent permanent damage.
       That was not nice (but a part of me was cheering a little on the
       inside).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually there's quite a bit of truth to that.  When any person,
       child or not, screams virtually at the top of their lungs for an
       excessive period of time, it really can and does damage the
       vocal chords.
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